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Old 11-17-2007, 10:58 PM
Jw513 Jw513 is offline
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Default NL25 - Line check Two hands of KK

Villain plays 34/3/0.3

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Party-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($71.93)
UTG ($25)
MP ($39.23)
Hero ($31.20)
Button ($42.15)
SB ($3.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, K.
2 folds</font>, Hero raises to $1</font>, 2 folds</font>, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.10) 4, K, J (2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero bets $1.5</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Turn: ($5.10) A(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero bets $3</font>, BB raises to $6.75</font>, Hero calls $3.75.

River: ($18.60) 3 (2 players)</font>
BB bets $20</font>, Hero calls $20.

Final Pot: $58.60

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Villain plays 44/15/1.6

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Party-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP ($9.95)
CO ($44.70)
Button ($46.28)
Hero ($24.75)
BB ($29.19)
UTG ($7.64)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K.
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, 1 fold</font>, Hero raises to $1.5</font>, 1 fold</font>, UTG calls $1.25, MP calls $1.25, CO calls $1.25.

Flop: ($6.25) 5, J, T (4 players)</font>
Hero bets $4.5</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $4.50, CO calls $44.70 (All-In), Hero calls $24.65 (All-In), MP calls $9.95 (All-In).

Turn: ($79) J (3 players, 3 all-in)</font>

River: ($79) 6 (3 players, 3 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $79

These look okay?
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Old 11-17-2007, 11:02 PM
Micro Donk Micro Donk is offline
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Default Re: NL25 - Line check Two hands of KK

hand 1: shove turn and its not close

hand 2: make it 1.75-2 preflop. pot flop. ill leave it to others but i think its drawy enough that calling the shove is ok
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Old 11-17-2007, 11:13 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - Line check Two hands of KK

#1:

push turn after he raises - or push the river - but get em all-in SOMEWHERE and preferably on the turn.

#2:

looks OK but you're probably rooting for bricks to hit turn and river cos it's very likely that CO (or MP) has at least the A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] if they didn't make a flush already and if they HAVE got a flush already then they probably gots Axss and you are drawing to runner runner boat. So not a great spot but I'd call here as well.
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Old 11-17-2007, 11:45 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - Line check Two hands of KK

can someone explain to me why hand1 is a shove on the turn? the BB has $72 and by turn he has only but in $9 which is 1/8 of his stack. What are we putting him on? The way we have played this hand up until the turn looks like we have a king and since we are in the CO our range would be wide, i don't think hes putting us on Ks. If we shove him on the turn however he might find a fold in AQ, lower pp or KQ? Obviously if he has set or 2 pair the money is going in anyways so theres no reason for us to push is there? What about a reraise on the turn to $20? Sorry if this is a noob question
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: NL25 - Line check Two hands of KK

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can someone explain to me why hand1 is a shove on the turn? the BB has $72 and by turn he has only but in $9 which is 1/8 of his stack. What are we putting him on? The way we have played this hand up until the turn looks like we have a king and since we are in the CO our range would be wide, i don't think hes putting us on Ks. If we shove him on the turn however he might find a fold in AQ, lower pp or KQ? Obviously if he has set or 2 pair the money is going in anyways so theres no reason for us to push is there? What about a reraise on the turn to $20? Sorry if this is a noob question

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hero only had 31~ to start the hand and 9~ invested to call the raise on the turn, if hes going to raise the turn anything less than a push makes no sense.
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: NL25 - Line check Two hands of KK

its pretty obvious the villian in hand 1 have atleast one pair beat (those kind of villians arent raising without a hand.) so a reraise on turn is good.

Hand 2 is high variance play hard too say if its +ev the push is a prolly a big hand on that board...
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - Line check Two hands of KK

Would like a few more opinions...

Also, Does their aggrssion factor have any influence on these hands?
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: NL25 - Line check Two hands of KK

*grunch*

Hand 1 I bet more on the flop and turn, and push over his turn minraise. I think he has 2 pair a lot here, possibly a set of Js or 4s. A suited Ace is a possibility also and I don't want to see another heart hit the board. The flop is pretty drawy, and the turn makes it even worse, so, I bet I like betting the flop and turn harder.

Hand 2 the converter is screwed up, and I'm assuming CO is pushing AI on the flop, which makes me think he has some combo draw going, or a set or two pair that's afraid of another spade hitting the board. I'd raise more preflop, I'd pot the flop, and when I get raised big I think I'm done. Even if we hit a fourth spade there's probably a pretty good chance we're going to lose to an Ace high flush.
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