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Old 11-27-2007, 12:46 PM
bubaloo bubaloo is offline
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Default c/c, c/f QQ overpair

villain: 37/8/0.6 (500h) never gets out of line.

Pacific Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.5/$1
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $45.68
UTG+1: $259.23
Bub: $101.07
Button: $79.6
SB: $95.05
BB: $11.8

Pre-flop: (6 players) Bub is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Bub raises to $4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $8</font>, 2 folds, Bub calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($17.5, 2 players)
Bub checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $10</font>, Bub calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($37.5, 2 players)
Bub checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $20</font>, Bub folds.
Uncalled bets: $20 returned to Button.

thoughts?
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:50 PM
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Default Re: c/c, c/f QQ overpair

How do you think he plays AK...like this?

Just raise the flop, you will get run over playing like this long run.
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: c/c, c/f QQ overpair

i cant see him firing a 2nd barrel w/ ak.
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: c/c, c/f QQ overpair

Given your description of the villian I think this is fine. I don't really see him showing up here with anything other than AA/KK. Guys with 0.6 AF are probably not double barreling AK...
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:16 PM
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Default Re: c/c, c/f QQ overpair

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

7,392 games 0.005 secs 1,478,400 games/sec

Board: 2h 9c 3s 3c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 54.870% 53.08% 01.79% 3924 132.00 { 99+ }
Hand 1: 45.130% 43.34% 01.79% 3204 132.00 { QQ }

Doesn't this mean we have to call down turn and reasonable river bet (depending on river card)? I see 37/8/0.6 donks minraise pf with 88, 99+ all the time.

To arrive at 99+, I gave villain 4% pfr and then took out all non-pair hands. I don't think villain would 2-barrel with 88 but if you include it, hero has 54% equity.
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:29 PM
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Default Re: c/c, c/f QQ overpair

At the very least you have to call this turn.
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:50 PM
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I think you can raise the flop and possibly fold to a shove, but it's real close. I have a real, real hard time folding this ever for 80bbs. As played, call turn? I'd get it in here at some point and hope for the best.
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: c/c, c/f QQ overpair

Also I hate preflop OOP. Just 4bet. Then you CAN fold to a 5bet.
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: c/c, c/f QQ overpair

[ QUOTE ]

Also I hate preflop OOP. Just 4bet. Then you CAN fold to a 5bet.

[/ QUOTE ]

surely this turns our hand into a bluff
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: c/c, c/f QQ overpair

guys, look closer at the PFR and the AF. and the minre? this is AA/KK so often it's sick. i don't see much wrong with this tbh
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