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Old 11-24-2007, 06:31 PM
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...I mean these guys go to the smelly casino all day...They could be grinding the cash games online and making supplemental money.

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Do some of you really believe this?

I'll admit the Venetian seems to have a bit too much perfume in the air. Otherwise, the only problem with any poker room I frequent is a few cocktail napkins under the table.

I spend my poker playing time in billion dollar resorts. That beats the hell out of "lying in bed w/ your laptop."

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Not trying to troll this thread, i just find this topic very interesting.

I wonder what it is in the way people operate/think that makes one more attracted to the casino lifestyle of poker as opposed to staying home grinding daily.

There has to be some correlation, possibly the way they grew up, something triggering their preference right?

I would love to hear someone with more of a psychological background comment on this.

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Live poker is a social game. From entertaining other players, to reading them, to being read. Players that are good at the social aspect of live poker are likely extroverts. They enjoy being around people, they thrive on it. Sitting at home on the computer might be akin to sticking a sharp stick in their eye, especially if they are alone. They thrive from being around other people.

I suspect a good portion of online players are more towards the introverted side, those who can do just fine alone in a room with their computer. Some of them even recharge from it, and being around a bunch of people is not their ideal environment.

So I would guess that at the very least the typical top tier live player is someone who has developed social skills and is likely much more comfortable in an environment surrounded by other people.

I think the online mixture is a bit different now, but still hardcore extroverts would never be comfortable sitting at home by themselves playing with their computer.
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Old 11-24-2007, 06:35 PM
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I don't know many highstakes players. But why i don't hear anything about ziigmund? I see him playing against everybody on ftp, is he not one of the topplayers, or is he "just" a live player?
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Old 11-24-2007, 06:39 PM
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let's say for example, there was a very rich player who liked to play a certain game. let's say that, even though he has lost millions of dollars in the game and the game pretty much only runs that high when he is in town, everyone that plays him calls him "fearless" and "one of the best in the world," and that he is hands down the toughest player to play.

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Old 11-24-2007, 06:46 PM
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Okay I read the first like 15 replies and you guys made me mad. Who the hell cares about someone's opinion of online poker players? I mean, you guys hug enough virtual nuts already so let someone say that Internet players aren't the OMGBESTINTHEWORLD.

To be honest, you guys sound like the bulltards at P5s jizzing over those retarded rankings.
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Old 11-24-2007, 06:49 PM
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let's say for example, there was a very rich player who liked to play a certain game. let's say that, even though he has lost millions of dollars in the game and the game pretty much only runs that high when he is in town, everyone that plays him calls him "fearless" and "one of the best in the world," and that he is hands down the toughest player to play.

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lol yes indeed
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Old 11-24-2007, 06:53 PM
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lol yes indeed

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that was a really tough one to figure out!!!!
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Old 11-24-2007, 06:54 PM
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I believe thats exactly who he was referring to.
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Old 11-24-2007, 07:04 PM
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When the big 1k/2k NLHE/PLO game was running at the WSOP this summer, wasn't it often full ring or close to?

And didn't Barry Greenstein say that Aba was doing the BEST out of everyone there? (And Antonius WAS in that game for some of it. Ditto with Kenny Tran, Bobby Baldwin, etc.). And wasn't it fairly deepstacked?

And Aba IS considered primarily an Internet player. So despite Greenstein's acknowledgement that Aba was performing the best there, and Antonius' knowledge of Aba's ability - Antonius is basically saying Aba even then isn't one of the top 20 NLHE live deep stacked full ring players?

Seriously?

I think Taylor Caby is right. Seriously it sounds like Antonius is just being clever about this. No way Aba performs as well as he did, even with Greenstein's comments, and not be even considered by Antonius as one of the top 20. That is really ridiculous.
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Old 11-24-2007, 07:09 PM
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I think the answer to all this is simple. Online guys see a lot more hands and are generally just all around smarter than the old school love pros. IF and a big IF, the live guys are better at live deep stacked poker, then it would just be a matter of the top online NL pros dedicating themselves to the nuances of deep stacked play and then it would be all over for the live guys. And obviously with 100bb stacks it's not even close. The online guys would destroy the live guys.

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I agree....

When I play "live" I just buy in for 100-120 bbs. Then it doesn't matter how much "500 bb poker" they're used to...cause buying in shorter makes them play my game.

I wish I stopped buying property and just moved up limits (in live poker that is)...cause 10/20 and 25/50 NL at the bellagio is SICK SOFT! Feels like I'm playing back on party poker 2/4 NL (when it was 200 buy in and the highest game on pp)
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Old 11-24-2007, 07:09 PM
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When the big 1k/2k NLHE/PLO game was running at the WSOP this summer, wasn't it often full ring or close to?

And didn't Barry Greenstein say that Aba was doing the BEST out of everyone there? (And Antonius WAS in that game for some of it. Ditto with Kenny Tran, Bobby Baldwin, etc.). And wasn't it fairly deepstacked?

And Aba IS considered primarily an Internet player. So despite Greenstein's acknowledgement that Aba was performing the best there, and Antonius' knowledge of Aba's ability - Antonius is basically saying Aba even then isn't one of the top 20 NLHE live deep stacked full ring players?

Seriously?

I think Taylor Caby is right. Seriously it sounds like Antonius is just being clever about this. No way Aba performs as well as he did, even with Greenstein's comments, and not be even considered by Antonius as one of the top 20. That is really ridiculous.

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this post is a little contradictory...you acknowledge that patrik was being clever about this by lying to protect fish...then you give no thought to the possibility that he is doing this when talking about aba
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