Too many football/baseball threads: NBA HYPOTHETICAL TIME

[kidcolin]

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My point was that if Perk and the number 1 have more value,

Instead of trading

Delonte West
Wally Sczcerbiak
5th pick
Al Jefferson
Ryan Gomes
Gerald Green
Sebastian Telfair
Theo Ratliff
Two future picks

for

Kevin Garnett
Ray Allen

The Celtics traded

Delonte West
Wally Sczcerbiak
1st pick
Kendrick Perkins
Ryan Gomes
Gerald Green
Sebastian Telfair
Theo Ratliff
Two future picks

for

Kevin Garnett
Ray Allen

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This is kinda dumb, GKA, because with the #1, we don't trade for those guys, ever.

[vixticator]

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hmm.. this might be close. I wouldn't say "by a lot".

[/ QUOTE ]Right, there is a good chance you will still end up a terrible team and back to lotto for years. If at least 20% chance of hitting an absolute monster in draft I would have to go with it. Some players instantly restore, or grant, your franchise status. Not counting that you still end up with a quality, all-star player a reasonable amount of the time at level of a Jefferson or higher. Probably more than half or close. When you busto and grab a Kwame or whatever, well, your screwed, but picking at top you likely were to begin with and could get another shot soon--Orlando is huge luckbox for example.

[Green Kool Aid]

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My point was that if Perk and the number 1 have more value,

Instead of trading

Delonte West
Wally Sczcerbiak
5th pick
Al Jefferson
Ryan Gomes
Gerald Green
Sebastian Telfair
Theo Ratliff
Two future picks

for

Kevin Garnett
Ray Allen

The Celtics traded

Delonte West
Wally Sczcerbiak
1st pick
Kendrick Perkins
Ryan Gomes
Gerald Green
Sebastian Telfair
Theo Ratliff
Two future picks

for

Kevin Garnett
Ray Allen

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This is kinda dumb, GKA, because with the #1, we don't trade for those guys, ever.

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[censored]. I just realize Big Al is going to be getting close to max money soon enough anyway = Celtics being over cap.

Oh well.

Thread can be locked. I will never be an NBA GM.

[CocoaKrispies]

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Thread can be locked. I would still be a better NBA GM than Isaiah.

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[Clarkmeister]

Jefferson, Yi>>>> Oden (perkins is worthless)

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Jefferson, Yi>>>> Oden (perkins is worthless)

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Is Perkins the next Duncan? No. Is he a serviceable player who rebounds and plays defense for 20-25 minutes per game? Yes.

Especially for the Celtics, he's a hell of a lot better than the guys backing him up (Powe, Big Baby, Pollard, Scal).

Clark...don't be hating on the Celtics, because they actually took the time to build a contendor, rather than going for quick fixes with guys like Ben Wallace to get them lots of regular season wins and a second round exit.

Celtics >>> Bulls.

Ainge >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> > Paxson

[hoyasnaxa]

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Jefferson, Yi>>>> Oden (perkins is worthless)

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Is Perkins the next Duncan? No. Is he a serviceable player who rebounds and plays defense for 20-25 minutes per game? Yes.

Especially for the Celtics, he's a hell of a lot better than the guys backing him up (Powe, Big Baby, Pollard, Scal).

Clark...don't be hating on the Celtics, because they actually took the time to build a contendor, rather than going for quick fixes with guys like Ben Wallace to get them lots of regular season wins and a second round exit.

Celtics >>> Bulls.

Ainge >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> > Paxson

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level?

[Green Kool Aid]

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Jefferson, Yi>>>> Oden (perkins is worthless)

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Is Perkins the next Duncan? No. Is he a serviceable player who rebounds and plays defense for 20-25 minutes per game? Yes.

Especially for the Celtics, he's a hell of a lot better than the guys backing him up (Powe, Big Baby, Pollard, Scal).

Clark...don't be hating on the Celtics, because they actually took the time to build a contendor, rather than going for quick fixes with guys like Ben Wallace to get them lots of regular season wins and a second round exit.

Celtics >>> Bulls.

Ainge >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> > Paxson

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level?

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Look at the team he has assembled:

Hinrich/ Duhon
Gordon/ Thabo
Deng/ Nocioni
T. Thomas/ Joe Smith
B. Wallace/ J. Noah

You look at that. They all play hard, and the lineup is balanced, but it looks like a college all-star team. Where is your Nash, Dirk, KG, Duncan, LeBron, Wade, etc. These are the guys you need to get to the Conference Finals and beyond.

And please don't try to compare them to the 2004 Pistons.

Paxson has drafted fairly conservatively with guys like Hinrich, Deng, Noah, and Gordon. His unwillingness to gamble in transactions makes his team always solid, but lacking that superstar power.

Not to mention he traded Tyson Chandler for PJ Brown. And h e traded LaMarcus Aldridge for Tyrus Thomas. Re-read those last two trades.

[NeedsMoreNuts]

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GKA,

An NBA/October definitely will be appropriate. Thoughts on IP banning Spurs fans? I mean it just seems better for the site or I wouldn't bring it up.

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[Clarkmeister]

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Jefferson, Yi>>>> Oden (perkins is worthless)

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Is Perkins the next Duncan? No. Is he a serviceable player who rebounds and plays defense for 20-25 minutes per game? Yes.

Especially for the Celtics, he's a hell of a lot better than the guys backing him up (Powe, Big Baby, Pollard, Scal).

Clark...don't be hating on the Celtics, because they actually took the time to build a contendor, rather than going for quick fixes with guys like Ben Wallace to get them lots of regular season wins and a second round exit.

Celtics >>> Bulls.

Ainge >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> > Paxson

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I can only assume you are drunk, or sober and just messing around. All I did was give my opinion to your question.

Perkins is entirely replacable in free agency, hence the "worthless", not that he's not a guy who can play 20 minutes, but that as an asset he's irrelevant to the discussion at hand.