Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Full Ring
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-21-2007, 09:37 AM
22pajo 22pajo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ireland
Posts: 727
Default NL20 - Extracting River Value

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10/$0.20

UTG+2 ($3.81)
MP1 ($19.26)
MP2 ($4.10)
MP3 ($14.04)
CO ($28.74)
Button ($19.14)
SB ($4.15)
BB ($21.86) (Hero)
UTG ($4.00)
UTG+1 ($10.93)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.20, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, SB calls $0.10, Hero checks,

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ( $0.6 )
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.60</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.60, SB calls $0.60,

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ( $2.4 )
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.80</font>, UTG+1 calls $1.80, SB calls $1.80,

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ( $7.8 )
SB checks, Hero ????

<font color="blue"> Obviously its easy say push here but what kind of bets should i be thinking about making here?
are we ever worried someone is playing the A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], for the nut flush, really weakly?</font>
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-21-2007, 09:52 AM
CaptVimes CaptVimes is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Embracing Distractions
Posts: 992
Default Re: NL20 - Extracting River Value

No you shouldn't be afraid, the most you can lose is 1.55, the rest of SB's stack. There is always the possibility that he has Axspades, but I don't get overly concerned. Your odds on the river are 6 to 1 which means you only have to be good here about 15% of the time to make money, put it all in. There are too many other hands we beat that he will call off the rest of his stack with to not bet this river.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-21-2007, 09:54 AM
xxrod17xx xxrod17xx is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Grinding out the Micro\'s
Posts: 732
Default Re: NL20 - Extracting River Value

I like $4-$5 range, it puts the sb all in and is enough to extract value from the UTG+1 player. I don't think you should be thinking about folding to the nuts with this hand. His calling range is prob pretty wide. If he pushes call. Any reads on the players? How long have you been at the table?

I also just like a push.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-21-2007, 09:55 AM
xxrod17xx xxrod17xx is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Grinding out the Micro\'s
Posts: 732
Default Re: NL20 - Extracting River Value

[ QUOTE ]
No you shouldn't be afraid, the most you can lose is 1.55, the rest of SB's stack. There is always the possibility that he has Axspades, but I don't get overly concerned. Your odds on the river are 6 to 1 which means you only have to be good here about 15% of the time to make money, put it all in. There are too many other hands we beat that he will call off the rest of his stack with to not bet this river.

[/ QUOTE ]

3-way pot vimes...he can only lose a small amount to the villan, but he still needs to extract value from UTG+1 who has like $7 left.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-21-2007, 10:32 AM
CaptVimes CaptVimes is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Embracing Distractions
Posts: 992
Default Re: NL20 - Extracting River Value

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
No you shouldn't be afraid, the most you can lose is 1.55, the rest of SB's stack. There is always the possibility that he has Axspades, but I don't get overly concerned. Your odds on the river are 6 to 1 which means you only have to be good here about 15% of the time to make money, put it all in. There are too many other hands we beat that he will call off the rest of his stack with to not bet this river.

[/ QUOTE ]

3-way pot vimes...he can only lose a small amount to the villan, but he still needs to extract value from UTG+1 who has like $7 left.

[/ QUOTE ]

Bleh, not enough coffee yet. Yeah, 4-5. Maybe still a shove if he thinks UTG will call a reasonable percentage of the time with worse hands. Its only a pot sized bet.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-21-2007, 12:09 PM
22pajo 22pajo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ireland
Posts: 727
Default Re: NL20 - Extracting River Value

[ QUOTE ]
Any reads on the players?
I also just like a push.

[/ QUOTE ]
No reads on either.
[ QUOTE ]
How long have you been at the table?

[/ QUOTE ]
Not at table long but i've been raising a lot as i've been given quite a few playable hands in position
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-21-2007, 12:20 PM
thehempy thehempy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 70
Default Re: NL20 - Extracting River Value

wtf just shove its less than a PSB.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-21-2007, 12:30 PM
AllTheCheese AllTheCheese is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 508
Default Re: NL20 - Extracting River Value

[ QUOTE ]
wtf just shove its less than a PSB.

[/ QUOTE ]

ROFL, yeah.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.