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Old 11-12-2007, 12:41 PM
ValarMorghulis ValarMorghulis is offline
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Default Re: Why do I keep calling these? Because I should? Tell me, please

Some people get very aggro blind versus blind and other people not. Assuming that villain is very aggro in these situations without reads is probably not the best idea. With history things get very different.
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: Why do I keep calling these? Because I should? Tell me, please

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dude, its bvb and we have tpfd

c/c is stupid and results orientated

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pushing turn is spew

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So if our hand is so massive why dont we push the turn? We have top pair and a flush draw!
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:44 PM
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Default Re: Why do I keep calling these? Because I should? Tell me, please

my last post ama + he won't felt much worse.
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:48 PM
K䲰䮥n K䲰䮥n is offline
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Default Re: Why do I keep calling these? Because I should? Tell me, please

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Some people get very aggro blind versus blind and other people not. Assuming that villain is very aggro in these situations without reads is probably not the best idea. With history things get very different.

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no history, no reads, hands are mostly datamined, hero is not aware of his image
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:48 PM
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Default Re: Why do I keep calling these? Because I should? Tell me, please

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dude, its bvb and we have tpfd

c/c is stupid and results orientated

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pushing turn is spew

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So if our hand is so massive why dont we push the turn? We have top pair and a flush draw!

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Because the strength of our hand is disguised if we hit and we're trying to build a pot, not necessarily fold villain out.
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:55 PM
K䲰䮥n K䲰䮥n is offline
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Default Re: Why do I keep calling these? Because I should? Tell me, please

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vittu puhuuko kukaan täällä suomea saatana kun en saa ajatusta irti [censored]

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Joo, voit sä koittaa suomeks, voin vaikka yrittää tulkata.. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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heh joo yritin kysyä, että onko oikein pelata HU poteissa 6max peleissä samalla tavalla ja samoilla periaatteilla, kuin ihan perus HU-pöydissä.

(I'm getting help on my English here)
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: Why do I keep calling these? Because I should? Tell me, please

when he raises the turn we should think we are behind, so obviously call. then on the river, we now beat some of his raising range, so i would call.

also, even nits do weird [censored] sometimes, especially b v b
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: Why do I keep calling these? Because I should? Tell me, please

Absent a more detailed read I play it exactly the same, and it's really not close at any point.

Maybe 10% of the time I'd check the turn, and maybe 10% of the time I'd fold the river, again only because of a real good read.

Edit: Reasoning is simple, we're ahead and are value betting until the turn raise, then we are behind but have odds.
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: Why do I keep calling these? Because I should? Tell me, please

He's wondering if you should approach BvB situations in 6-max the same way as you're playing heads up?

Actually he asked if you should approach HU in 6-max the same as HU but that's obviously not the case.

As I see it 6-max is like 9-handed where 3 people have folded, 5-max is like 6-max when UTG folds and HU is like BvB except the button (positional advantage) is on SB. Amarite?
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:09 PM
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Default Re: Why do I keep calling these? Because I should? Tell me, please

i don't have any big problem with not 3bai on the turn, but there's a lot to take into consideration:

a)villain has trash here a lot, and a lot of trash has outs to beat you

b)villain will sometimes make crappy hero calls here with pair+crap draw type hands or Qx

c)how bad do you want this guy to do this to you again when you're hand isn't so good?
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