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I fold top pair on turn
Reads.
SB is 28/18 after 250 hands. No real reads so datamined hands BB is 35/17 after 400 hands. No real reads here either. Is folding completely standard or should I consider 3-betting to knock out SB? Party Poker Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $5/$10 6 players Converter Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, hero calls. Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9SB, 3 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, BB calls, hero calls. Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6BB, 3 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, hero folds... |
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Re: I fold top pair on turn
ugh, but probably fold.
Also, not a huge fan of the flop peel. |
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Re: I fold top pair on turn
Seems like a standard fold. Also, wtf @ the flop peel?
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Re: I fold top pair on turn
fold the flop. you're steal attempt backfired and you've got no draws...
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Re: I fold top pair on turn
You guys fold way too much, but that should be in another thread.
Board: 3s 9c 8s equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 40.900% 39.19% 01.71% 4991083 217219.33 { 55+, A7s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KJo+ } Hand 1: 48.769% 47.04% 01.73% 5990551 219705.33 { 77+, ATs+, KJs+, QJs, JTs, AJo+, KQo } Hand 2: 10.331% 10.06% 00.27% 1280723 34824.33 { Qh7h } Folding in position getting a free river with ok probability is not an option for me. Please to be commenting on turn fold [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] |
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Re: I fold top pair on turn
Good fold. Also Oink, I know you don't like to fold flops but you have to draw the line somewhere.... Seriously, what are you hoping to hit on the turn here?
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Re: I fold top pair on turn
I really don't give a [censored] about your stoved equity here, your hand sucks and even if you do hit a "good" card on the turn you'll have to dodge a ton of cards on the river. Not folding here has to be a leak [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Re: I fold top pair on turn
[ QUOTE ]
You guys fold way too much, but that should be in another thread. Board: 3s 9c 8s equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 40.900% 39.19% 01.71% 4991083 217219.33 { 55+, A7s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KJo+ } Hand 1: 48.769% 47.04% 01.73% 5990551 219705.33 { 77+, ATs+, KJs+, QJs, JTs, AJo+, KQo } Hand 2: 10.331% 10.06% 00.27% 1280723 34824.33 { Qh7h } Folding in position getting a free river with ok probability is not an option for me. Please to be commenting on turn fold [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] After shoving your equity, I dont see how you can possibly think this is a peel. Youre a 9-1 dog getting a little over 9-1 on your money, but thats only if you always see the river which you wont a lot of the time and your RIO are horrendous. |
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Re: I fold top pair on turn
flop peel is bad on this board. serious RIO here. all of your pair outs are tainted and/or set up redraws
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Re: I fold top pair on turn
for future reference, if you are peeling the flop with no pair and no draw and 1 over, when you actually hit your over, and you still have to fold, that means you should have probably folded the flop.
i don't care what calculations you send at me, that's the worst flop call I've seen in awhile. turn fold looks ok. |
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