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[Pokerfarian]

I like preflop. I like the postflop line provided you call river. I'll try & say something which isn't repetitive:
(i) He can CRAI on flop for the same size as here, are we calling there?
(ii) Hero's line doesn't look as weak as has been suggested. There are various different lines which you can take with an Ace on this board & bet flop; check turn is one, and yes I realise that some tiny part of his range is a flush draw.
(iii) I'm an active villian who likes to abuse all forms of bubbles, "we" like to see flops & 'outplay' you there as well when there's no decent way of reraising, like with Ax in the BB here. So villian can definitely have an Ace. Since villain is OOP & a turn shove from you would only be a PSB villain really shouldn't have total air here. If he flopped the flush draw he surely CRAI. He surely doesn't shove river with one extra pair letting you play perfectly. So actually I don't hate a fold, even though I did when I first started writing. I probably still call though, I'm reading too far into this & villains range is actually wide & varied even if it shouldn't be.
Edit to add (iv) I think preflop is best, but with a slightly more specific read I'd be tempted to go 3.7-4K preflop to induce a resteal, because you're raise size whilst generally best here does/should limit his aggression preflop with air.

[Dunkman]

You people saying fold, if villain has a big hand, what is he putting us on that will call a river shove? From where I sit, our hand is at the very tip top of our range considering how we played the hand, and obviously a lot of you would even fold this here.

[JammyDodga]

I think is a call.

We know

1. Villian has been active on the button, so udnerstand that people fold more often on bubble and dont like to put whole stack at risk. He's also been putting pressure on people with his stack.

2. We seem pretty weak from our line.

3. He puts us all in on the river, applying as much pressure as he can.

Would he really do that with an ace if he wants a call? I don't think so. He's trying to make us fold, we have a good hand, so call.

[BarryLyndon]

First of all, in spots like this, I lean toward a flop check in position. I'm not looking to balloon the pot because if I head to the turn and check, the river is going to suuuuck. I don't want this to be a three street afair - cut it down to two. Boards with paired aces, it's like, if you lead when you have one, you get paid here; if you lead when you don't have one, you find yourself in trouble.

The river is a call. I don't know what my stack needs to be to let this go, but at 17K and with his big stack and a missed flush draw and your check on the turn, this is a perfect opportunity for him to lead OOP and pick up the pot. In fact, I can't see a reasonable competing justification for a fold here.

Barry

[GSykes]

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[Dunkman]

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Wtf, bump, it has 25 replies, call damnit, what else do you want to hear?

[hamnegger]

i dont like check on flop bc a king or q high hand are in his preflop calling range. i think you played the hand well. i think i call this i smell a rat hes bullying you imo alot. yes sometimes he will show down ace but i still call its ace or air almost all the time

[rsxpunk]

villain is active and your hand is face up is he has half a brain...think you gotta call here

[BlueEcho]

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Wtf, bump, it has 25 replies, call damnit, what else do you want to hear?

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LOL!............Yes check turn to call river.

[GSykes]

yeah i snapped

just wanted to see if anyone else showed anymore opinions.