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Re: The Hated Free Showdown Raise Maybe
Confusing thread, I think I would 4 bet the turn if three bet - then maybe check behind on the river.
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Re: The Hated Free Showdown Raise Maybe
haha, I read your title and then your post and thought you were trying to induce action by faking a free showdown raise.
guess you weren't. anyway, I'd value raise the turn and value bet any river. -Bill |
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Re: The Hated Free Showdown Raise Maybe
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Confusing thread, I think I would 4 bet the turn if three bet - then maybe check behind on the river. [/ QUOTE ] nah, i don't think a 3bet here is a set enough of the time even if villian calls 99/tt 100% in the blinds Barron |
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Re: The Hated Free Showdown Raise Maybe
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Confusing thread, I think I would 4 bet the turn if three bet - then maybe check behind on the river. [/ QUOTE ] This is definitely overkill, because if you're 3-bet (and you happen to hold the key nut card) you're generally beaten and if you're 5-bet, you're going to be shooting yourself. Garland |
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Re: The Hated Free Showdown Raise Maybe
Well, he cant have the nuts, so it is tough to put together how we are thinking the same player who cannot 3 bet the turn with a set can 5 bet the turn w/o the nuts. Also, if he does have a set and he fills up, the turn 4 bet will perhaps get us pretty sick action on the river.
I think it is rather unlikely we can be 5 bet here, so in sticking with the title of the thread as defined by OP, I prefer a FSD 4 bet. We also get to win an extra bet when we fill up since is possible villian will check the river if the board pairs. |
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Re: The Hated Free Showdown Raise Maybe
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Well, he cant have the nuts, so it is tough to put together how we are thinking the same player who cannot 3 bet the turn with a set can 5 bet the turn w/o the nuts. [/ QUOTE ] I'm somewhat confused. You're going on the supposition that we got turn 3-bet by a non-nut hand. Then supposedly he's got a near nut hand, and that near nut hand (flush) beats us. And if we 4-bet, we still haven't established the bounds of villain's aggression. He may get stubborn and 5-bet us, which is very much bad news. However... [ QUOTE ] Also, if he does have a set and he fills up, the turn 4 bet will perhaps get us pretty sick action on the river. [/ QUOTE ] As unlikely a set is with a turn 3-bet, this is actually an amusing and interesting thought. However, if we simply fill up, and he still gives us excess action, we still have one more thing to worry about [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Garland |
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