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Old 11-19-2007, 06:59 PM
Daddy Warbucks Daddy Warbucks is offline
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Default I call the river pretty much always here

Villain is a bad lag, 35/28 and a losing player in my DB. I haven't really seen him in 3 bet pots yet. He's 3 bet twice in about the 40 or so hands we've played. Is calling here pretty much 100% a leak?

Party Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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SB: $215
Hero (BB): $285
UTG: $249.25
CO: $329.50
BTN: $179.50

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $8</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $29</font>, CO calls $21

Flop: ($59) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($59) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($59) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $35</font>, Hero calls $35
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:02 PM
nazahl nazahl is offline
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Default Re: I call the river pretty much always here

yea, worst part is he's usually betting a king and I end up feeling completely owned.
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: I call the river pretty much always here

No, I think calling the river is ok v described player.
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:26 PM
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Default Re: I call the river pretty much always here

He can be taking a stab with a pretty wide range here (I would expect a King to bet after you've checked it twice), so I'd call.

And I still don't understand the 3-bet pre-flop/check an A-high flop line - it's not a line I would ever take, so could you explain why you played it that way?
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:30 PM
Sean Fraley Sean Fraley is offline
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Default Re: I call the river pretty much always here

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And I still don't understand the 3-bet pre-flop/check an A-high flop line - it's not a line I would ever take, so could you explain why you played it that way?

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I'm not getting this either. Either you were planning to give it up completely (or after a c-bet) if ace or king hit, in which case this river is a fold anyway, or you weren't, in which case you really need to call this river. I'm curious about your line here too, as I suck pretty bad and may be failing to see something here.
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:30 PM
Daddy Warbucks Daddy Warbucks is offline
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Default Re: I call the river pretty much always here

Because i know nothing really about the players tendencies in 3 bet pots and I turn my hand into a bluff by betting. The board is super dry, and i'm most likely not folding out better hands by betting. It's WA/WB.
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: I call the river pretty much always here

usually ok to call here
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: I call the river pretty much always here

What is an aggrotard like this checking b ehind twice w/o showdownvalue that he is bluffing the river with? I don't think he is v-betting a worse hand very often here.
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: I call the river pretty much always here

There might have been some timing tells, i timed down on flop and turn so it might have looked like i was slowplaying top two plus.
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