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Old 09-14-2007, 07:23 PM
RedBean RedBean is offline
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that was an idiotic ruling, and really shouldn't be used to support future rulings. I don't know anybody who thought the Wilson ruling was correct.


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I didn't say it should be used to support future rulings....it obviously isn't.....that is what makes it so inconsistent.....which is what I said it was.

Goodall is inconsistent with his punishments.

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the commissioner ruled that taking the pick away and fining the coach were worse punishments than the suspension.


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He could have done both, too.
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Old 09-14-2007, 07:38 PM
Richard Tanner Richard Tanner is offline
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6-Stealing an opposing team's playbook
7-Video taping the opposing team to study and memorize their signals

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wtf, are u serious?

stealing a playbook should be #10 as i wouldn't even have official bribing on the radar....even if i did, there is no way in hell stealing signs is as bad as stealing a playbook. no even close really.

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Ya rly!

Stealing a playbook doesn't really give you anything. Teams run plays that are very close to each other and they run 7-8 formations with 50-100 plays from each. It's not like having the playbook is going to give you a huge advantage on any given play, but knowing what coverage the D is in on every play certainly will.

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Old 09-14-2007, 08:48 PM
Oliver Nipples Oliver Nipples is offline
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Stealing a playbook doesn't really give you anything.

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Tell that to these guys when they lost the Hula Bowl.

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Old 09-14-2007, 09:59 PM
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On field cheating >>> off-field cheating.

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perception wise, yes, reality-wise, no.

but people actually think that the Pats cheating went so far and beyond the other guys that they deserve a penalty degrees of magnitude worse. the Steelers lose $400k against the cap and a 3rd round pick 6 years ago, but now the Pats should lose 2 1st rounders and have their coach suspended???

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BTW, BB denies that these videos were used during the game, they were only used after to prepare for the future times that the Pats played those teams. Assuming that this is true (and I think it probably is), this wouldn't really be on field cheating.

I still think the Pats should have lost a game in the standings.
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Old 09-14-2007, 10:00 PM
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On field cheating >>> off-field cheating.

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perception wise, yes, reality-wise, no.

but people actually think that the Pats cheating went so far and beyond the other guys that they deserve a penalty degrees of magnitude worse. the Steelers lose $400k against the cap and a 3rd round pick 6 years ago, but now the Pats should lose 2 1st rounders and have their coach suspended???

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BTW, BB denies that these videos were used during the game, they were only used after to prepare for the future times that the Pats played those teams. Assuming that this is true (and I think it probably is), this wouldn't really be on field cheating.

I still think the Pats should have lost a game in the standings.

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yeah, they were only stealing for future games. that's why they were taping the detroit lions.
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Old 09-14-2007, 10:12 PM
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On field cheating >>> off-field cheating.

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perception wise, yes, reality-wise, no.

but people actually think that the Pats cheating went so far and beyond the other guys that they deserve a penalty degrees of magnitude worse. the Steelers lose $400k against the cap and a 3rd round pick 6 years ago, but now the Pats should lose 2 1st rounders and have their coach suspended???

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BTW, BB denies that these videos were used during the game, they were only used after to prepare for the future times that the Pats played those teams. Assuming that this is true (and I think it probably is), this wouldn't really be on field cheating.

I still think the Pats should have lost a game in the standings.

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yeah, they were only stealing for future games. that's why they were taping the detroit lions.

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Well, I suspect that BB would want to get that footage in case he faced some of the Det coaches in the future. (Maybe they could pick up some tells).
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Old 09-14-2007, 10:19 PM
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Well, I suspect that BB would want to get that footage in case he faced some of the Det coaches in the future. (Maybe they could pick up some tells).

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LOL! Detroit coaches get rehired? Bwahahahahah! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 09-15-2007, 01:25 AM
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Old 09-15-2007, 09:54 AM
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You all have your fun now.
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Old 09-15-2007, 09:38 PM
PLO8FaceKilla PLO8FaceKilla is offline
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Default Re: Patriots get caught with camera man taping NY Jets coaches playcal

One of the most interesting parts of this is how every single team in the league videotapes signals, yet the pats get busted for it.

Few people know that an employee of the JETS was doing the exact same thing during the game.

Here is a link showing the camera man.
http://coloyan.com/society/s091607

this is clearly a ridiculous witch hunt, aimed at getting the 2 more votes needed to allow radios in the helmets of defensive players. (the pats were one of the teams voting against it)
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