THE FANTASTIC FOUR

JEFF or DAD · #1 08-21-2007, 10:56 AM

SB = fish
VILLAIN = no real reads yet, he seems kinda weird tho in weird spots, couldnt put my finger on it

Seat 6: SB ($769.25 in chips)
Seat 7: HERO ($3235.00 in chips)
Seat 8: VILLAIN ($2975.00 in chips)
SB: posts small blind $5
BB: posts big blind $10
Dealt to HERO [ 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
VILLAIN: raises to $35
SB: folds
HERO: raises to $125
VILLAIN: calls
*** FLOP *** [ K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
HERO: bets $175
VILLAIN: calls
*** TURN *** [ T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
HERO: checks
VILLAIN: checks
*** RIVER *** [ 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
HERO: bets $400
VILLAIN: raises to $1600

TheWorstPlayer · #2 08-21-2007, 11:21 AM

Meh. I'd call. You see random crap/overplayed two pair enough. Vanessa did this against me the other day and she had AA here, FWIW.

tcorbin16 · #3 08-21-2007, 11:24 AM

muckemsayuhhhhh

jfish · #4 08-21-2007, 11:38 AM

i fold.

FireStorm · #5 08-21-2007, 11:47 AM

Fold, given the betting line it is far too easy for Villain to have KsXs or QsXs here.

recallme · #6 08-21-2007, 12:24 PM

3bettet pot and we have a set. I fear AQss/AKss but not much else.

ImsaKidd · #7 08-21-2007, 12:36 PM

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Fold, given the betting line it is far too easy for Villain to have KsXs or QsXs here.

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Doesnt villain bet most of these combos on the turn? Especially given that the most common combinations (with the As or Js) give him a gutshot or OESD.

fslexcduck · #8 08-22-2007, 09:17 AM

dov, board was paired you fish. also, fold here.

UpstateMatt · #9 08-22-2007, 12:41 PM

I don't think a call here is outrageous. We're getting better than 2 to 1, and for all the reasons an 'unknown' won't show up with air here, they might very well show up with KQ/KT/QT/22/AA. Especially three handed. I don't think the 3-bet pre-flop can be leaned on to take that much out of the range. I wouldn't be surprised if villain showed up with K4 here occasionally.

HiiroYuy · #10 08-22-2007, 03:08 PM

I mean I can see why you would want to call but given your read on him which is 'does weird things in weird spots' I feel a fold is correct b/c his turn checking behind range is seemingly wide making the flush or straight a good possibility.
Whereas i think a more TAGish player would more often bet that turn with a combo draw / turned straight.