25 nl horrendously butchered kq from sb

Hebel · #1 11-28-2007, 01:18 AM

I suck

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

CO ($19.15)
Button ($29.60)
Hero ($24.75)
BB ($56.35)
UTG ($24.30)
MP ($10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, MP (poster) checks, 1 fold, Button calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 1 fold, MP folds, Button calls $1.

Flop: ($3) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $1.85, Button raises to $3.7, Hero calls $1.85.

Turn: ($10.40) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $9, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $19.40

djcarter66 · #2 11-28-2007, 01:37 AM

U only suck a buck 85, stuff happens probably could have checked the flop but you were after information the only question is once he gave you the information why call the re raise.

No biggy lesson learned move on.

brasilstu · #3 11-28-2007, 01:56 AM

It's really not that bad. what do you think you could have done differently oop?

My read, based on the call from late pos and the eagerness to play for stacks, + min raise = villain has pp, hit his set.

you have an open ender, if you'd made your draw on the turn you would have stacked him.

gregorio · #4 11-28-2007, 01:58 AM

Do you have any questions, or just want us to know you suck?

Flop bet is really small. Easy for villain to raise with air here you look so weak. Definitely call flop with 2 overs and OESD. If you bet bigger on flop and get raised, you can shove if you think you have FE. Any reads? WTF can they limp with from OTB? Button could have 2pr or T9, 98 here.

Check_The_Nuts · #5 11-28-2007, 01:59 AM

yeah I kinda like check/call more than bet. Doubt he's folding that often on that board to a flop bet.

Hebel · #6 11-28-2007, 02:00 AM

I have no idea. about anything. which is why i posted the hand. i think pf should have been 1.50, and i should have checked/shoved the flop in retrospect

Effen · #7 11-28-2007, 02:03 AM

I think preflop is a little irrelevant to his postflop holding, he was calling 1.50 as much as he called 1.25.

Check/overbet shove hardly seems worth it.

gregorio · #8 11-28-2007, 02:04 AM

PF bet size is standard 4bb+1bb per limper. Shoving flop without reads is tough. You have no fold equity vs a lot of villain's range. Sucks to be OOP. I cbet 2-2.25 and call a raise and then c/f turn UI too. Hand gets tricky if you hit one of your overs. I shouldn't have thought of them as outs. They are real dirty.

Woody317 · #9 11-28-2007, 02:12 AM

I actually thought this wasn't played too bad [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
The flop bet is too small but other than that i don't see a problem with it. You can't bet/3-bet this flop after he's raised. With no reads you get almost no fold equity here and you're overcards are unlikely to be outs anyway.

I like c-betting here and calling a raise if you have odds. Once he raises you your implied odds are good so just play to hit the straight. You didn't hit so check-fold turn is fine.

Hebel · #10 11-28-2007, 02:15 AM

any hand where i fold is bad imo

but seriously, i guess this wasnt as bad as i thought. i just thought c/f on the turn was terrible