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Old 11-15-2007, 08:48 AM
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how often I cap what I cap:
30% AA
50% KK
100% QQ-55
50% 44-22
100% AK
70% AQs

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Wow. You never cap KQs, KJs, 76s+, AJ, ATs?

I cap all of those more often than not. Except the suited connectors. But still. Thats a tight capping range IMO
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:40 PM
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Default Re: should i vs. you >>>>????

do it, I cap it also and it makes ppl c/r w/AK on a 9high flop
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: should i vs. you >>>>????

Just curious, what kind of a range does 55 have 50% eq against?
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:07 PM
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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

652,387,824 games 0.005 secs 130,477,564,800 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.402% 48.90% 00.50% 319033744 3255650.00 { 5c5d }
Hand 1: 50.598% 50.10% 00.50% 326842780 3255650.00 { 33+, A3s+, K6s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T8s+, 97s+, 87s, 76s, 65s, A5o+, K8o+, QTo+, JTo }
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:11 PM
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Against me you would win a lot of money capping 55 if you could control yourself beyond the turn.
Im really weak tight OOP HU.Not necessarily bad against most players but against someone who knows what he is doing I´m an easy target.Luckily enough there are few players who knows that in my games.
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: should i vs. you >>>>????

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

652,387,824 games 0.005 secs 130,477,564,800 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.402% 48.90% 00.50% 319033744 3255650.00 { 5c5d }
Hand 1: 50.598% 50.10% 00.50% 326842780 3255650.00 { 33+, A3s+, K6s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T8s+, 97s+, 87s, 76s, 65s, A5o+, K8o+, QTo+, JTo }

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I assume this range is only for a guy like miles. If the button were more of a TAG, I can't see a lot of those hands being profitable. Do you 3-bet a lot of these for meta as well or are they all winners for you (at least in groups?) I guess I would be leaving a table if miles were sitting to my right though so this rarely comes up for me. I'm guessing this range is very fluid and depends on your image, the player and the table dynamics.
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:09 PM
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That range is about 30%. I think that is a pretty standard amount of hands to be playing out of the SB against a LAGTAG steal OTB.

Whether I 3-bet all of them or not depends on SB. If he is loose bad I will just call a lot of them.

If he is too tight. Like 22/18 I will also just call since he wont call a lot anyway and since I like keeping the pot small OOP against a guy like Miles.

If he is LAG and tough I will tighten up because a) he is calling more hands PF and making less mistakes postflop and b) Miles is adjusting his range when BB is tough.


I do believe I can make even more hands profitable against a TAG. Simply because they fold too much. I would much rather play 65s against a TAG that I have a postflop edge on than against Miles against whom I prolly dont have an edge on.

Miles is gonna make life miserable for me and a TAG is gonna play ABC untill he starts adjusting. (Dynamics matter as well of course)

In general I think its important to realize that when you 3-bet in the SB and BB folds (and Miles calls) then you only need 3/7 ~ 43% eq to have an edge on the money going in. Then you need to add implied FE and implied odds (prolly negative vs Miles OOP)

In general people fold too much. Also in this spot.
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:28 PM
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Okay, so if you're opening all of these against an ABC TAG and get caught (i.e. you make a big hand with K6s or something against his Ax), you are going to have to adjust. In my experience, TAGs don't like it when they figure out that you're 3-betting them with, what they would call, junk. I suppose how you respond to that will depend on their response. Some might not care and just think you're overaggressive, but some will start capping everything and going to showdown a lot (although, most will still play predictable post flop and fall into that mode that Schneid talks about where they call with the bottom half of their range and bet the top half.)
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: should i vs. you >>>>????

I rarely cap HU in this spot. I cap pretty wide if the BB comes along.
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:33 PM
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Definetely adjust after you get caught
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