polishing off the cannon

[Fletcher19]

ship ship shove arrrr in

easily profitable

[goofyballer]

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I mean, vaginas check this river, men do not, so are you goofy or are you flamez

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I thought we've established that I'm a LAG postflop.

[SootedPower]

Not sure who got owned harded by that post. Me or goofy?

<3

[pineapple888]

Dude, the rest of his postflop stats are critical here. Agg? W$SD? % fold to CB?

That said, the turn bet seems really pointless to me. He's generally calling with most of his range. I would only do this if he's one of those players who chases two streets then folds the river unless he improves, and I expected to follow up with a river bet no matter what.

[Maulik]

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Dude, the rest of his postflop stats are critical here. Agg? W$SD? % fold to CB?

That said, the turn bet seems really pointless to me. He's generally calling with most of his range. I would only do this if he's one of those players who chases two streets then folds the river unless he improves, and I expected to follow up with a river bet no matter what.

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[terp]

the turn bet:
-folds out hands worse than top pair (a lot)
-prevents me from getting bluffed off ace high on the river by missed draws
-gets me value in the future if i showdown my bluff

[Jub.]

I like checking behind on this turn. If it was a T, Q, K I would be inclined to bet it but also do not want to get check raised. Because we now have a FD, if we check behind he will rarely bluff coz of his low W2SD(maybe not right), but if he does in fact have a strong hand and we hit a flush on river we are going to get alot of value from it.

[EgoSlasher]

FYI: w2sd takes many thousands of hands to converge properly.

Argument for checking behind is preserving your implied odds and the value obtained when you make your flush and he leads into you.

Argument for betting is to try to fold out less than tp. It stops him from bluffing the river etc. It also builds fold equity for the 3rd barrel.


Pretty sure a superior play is to check the flop though.

[goofyballer]

I agree 100% with terp on the turn bet fwiw. Hand is perfectly played, only decision is whether to fire river.

[Montezuma21]

1. I think turn bet is good. you'll fold out Tx, 99, 88, 98 etc. basically a very big part of villain's range. my only worry is that we miss a lot of value against a slowplayed set if we hit on the river, but sets are a very small part of his range on the flop anyway.

2. I'm not sure there's a huge amount of value in bluffing the river at this point. if he called turn with JT, he's not folding now, and i think a good part of his range includes missed combo draws because i think these guys tend to seriously overvalue their implied odds.