No flop, full drop???

[GootRuck]

Thats pretty dirty. They only drop $1 here preflop, dropping $5 is ridiculous, pre flop.

[GiantWalleye]

I think taking a rake without a flop is BS. ive never seen that before.

[AngusThermopyle]

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I think taking a rake without a flop is BS. ive never seen that before.

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Then don't come to San Jose and play 5-200 or 10-200.
Any action, $5 drop, even if no flop.
No action (all fold), $1 drop.

[Witzo]

I'd still ask for the floor. Let the floor tell you this. No harm by asking for an appeal.

[PokherJoe]

In places where there isnt much competition between rooms i could see this being more common, but if ther are enough serious players, they will go where its the cheapest. supply and demand baby!

[dbldwnblue]

Here in LA all the casinos as far as I know take a $1 if there is no flop.

[Howard Burroughs]

I was playing at the Golden Nugget a few weeks back (1-2NL). I open the pot pre-flop for a small raise. All fold. Instead of tossing me the 3 bucks in blinds....they rake the 3 bucks and give me what's left. I say, WTF? (but in a more polite way)

BTW, 2+2 legend, Capone, was at my table when this happened.


Anyway, Dealer says they are just doing what they are told. I ask for the floor. Floor says, rake stands. WTF?



Oh well. I think that (raking the blinds pre-flop) is insane but the games there are often so donktastic, I have played there since. AND FWIW.......

Everytime this situation has come up since then (in my experience), the dealer has just tossed me the 3 bucks. So some dealers (most?) must think it's a stupid rule too (ala what used to be the case at Excalibur when I played there a lot years ago; pretty much the same situation).


Best Wishes

Howard

[BigBluffer]

The way I read the OP, the rakable pot should be $47:

SB: $1
BB: $2 + $18 call of CO's raise (the $80 reraise should not be raked since it wasn't called)
Limper #1: $2
Limper #2: $2
Limper #3: $2
CO: $2 + $18 raise (called by BB)

10% of $47 = $4.70. If anything between $4 and $5 was dropped, I'd be OK with that.

As a point of reference, the Florida Seminoles do not follow the no flop/no drop convention (at least they're not supposed to - some may at the room manager's risk). If you raise and win the $3 in blinds, they will drop $1. The Brighton Seminole casino rakes in 25c increments after the first $1.

[Rick Nebiolo]

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I think taking a rake without a flop is BS. ive never seen that before.

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Several years back before the no limit boom the largest card room in the world in for example 3/6 limit holdem would drop the full $3 house drop plus $1 jackpot drop on an open raise of the blinds. In other words the open raiser would get his $6 raise back. The house dropped the blinds.

~ Rick

[bav]

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I was playing at the Golden Nugget a few weeks back (1-2NL). I open the pot pre-flop for a small raise. All fold. Instead of tossing me the 3 bucks in blinds....they rake the 3 bucks and give me what's left. I say, WTF? (but in a more polite way)

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Ok... Scratch the Nugget from the list of places I will ever play again.

Only places on the strip I know of that violate the no-flop-no-drop policy are Monte Carlo and Excalibur. I assume Mandalay does as well since they and MC are so similar, but I dunno. But they aren't so insane as to count uncalled bets as part of the pot.

Wonder what Nevada Gaming would say about this?