$600NL Not sure if I should turn TT into bluff here

Rampage_Jackson · #1 10-21-2007, 06:27 PM

The villian who raised and bet the flop is RaSZi. What's key is I've seen him bluff into mw pots before with nothing on the flop and give up the turn.

I figure he double barrels KK/AA/AQ most of the time... but should I be betting here or trying for a showdown?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($619.35)
UTG+1 ($1555.30)
MP1 ($1209.80)
MP2 ($580.05)
MP3 ($200.25)
wpr101 ($650.10)
Button ($384.45)
SB ($901.25)
BB ($372.25)

Preflop: wpr101 is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $24, MP1 calls $24, 2 folds, wpr101 calls $24, 3 folds.

Flop: ($81) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 bets $54, MP1 calls $54, wpr101 calls $54.

Turn: ($243) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, wpr101 bets $166

Praetor · #2 10-21-2007, 06:37 PM

try to showdown

Eagles · #3 10-21-2007, 06:43 PM

You are trying to fold out exactly one hand... this is not a bluff

jlocdog · #4 10-21-2007, 07:27 PM

Seems like a great spot to take the free card. Not sure what made you turn it down actually...

dd323 · #5 10-21-2007, 07:30 PM

If I am betting this turn, its not to fold to a push..

Trivial · #6 10-21-2007, 07:44 PM

weird, but i think i like this, since your flop over-call looks so super strong. of course, we could do this with any hand but i feel that anything less than 8x will have a really hard time calling down here (provided you jam the river).

so if we win the hand most of the time by seeing a showdown but basically every time by doing this then i guess it has to be best?

AAismyfriend · #7 10-21-2007, 08:02 PM

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weird, but i think i like this, since your flop over-call looks so super strong. of course, we could do this with any hand but i feel that anything less than 8x will have a really hard time calling down here (provided you jam the river).

so if we win the hand most of the time by seeing a showdown but basically every time by doing this then i guess it has to be best?

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Trivial, this is pretty dead on. The only reason I wouldn't like this is if villain here is super stubborn.

Rampage_Jackson · #8 10-21-2007, 08:43 PM

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If I am betting this turn, its not to fold to a push..

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Are you serious? What am I beating? And there's no way another solid regular is going to bluff me in this type of pot.

jfish · #9 10-21-2007, 08:46 PM

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weird, but i think i like this, since your flop over-call looks so super strong. of course, we could do this with any hand but i feel that anything less than 8x will have a really hard time calling down here (provided you jam the river).

so if we win the hand most of the time by seeing a showdown but basically every time by doing this then i guess it has to be best?

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Trivial, this is pretty dead on. The only reason I wouldn't like this is if villain here is super stubborn.

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our legitimate hand range is TINY, i think we get looked up way too often.

Redgrape · #10 10-22-2007, 12:05 AM

It's only a bluff if hands that are ahead of us will fold.