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Re: i might be taking this value thing too far
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[ QUOTE ] Raise the flop to $20. You should have plenty of FE and if called you have your hearts. You can easily drop it to a raise here too as his range is surely narrowed to {overpairs, 2 pair, sets}. [/ QUOTE ] You can't fold to a raise against this range. We have 12 clean outs and 3 aces that might be good. With ~45% equity we'll have too good a price to fold. [/ QUOTE ] Sorry... Missed the gutshot. Makes a significant difference to this line. |
#12
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Re: i might be taking this value thing too far
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not raising flop is pretty gay. i would shove the river, i dont think hes full here v often. [/ QUOTE ] Wow. I'm really looking forward to homophobia becoming unfashionable again. |
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Re: i might be taking this value thing too far
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Thing is he has to have a hand that can valuebet this strong that you are ahead of. I don't see that from a tag here. Is he making this bet with 88? I doubt it. Just call.. [/ QUOTE ] So we have a bluff catcher and should consider folding? |
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Re: i might be taking this value thing too far
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[ QUOTE ] Thing is he has to have a hand that can valuebet this strong that you are ahead of. I don't see that from a tag here. Is he making this bet with 88? I doubt it. Just call.. [/ QUOTE ] So we have a bluff catcher and should consider folding? [/ QUOTE ] Noone is folding this ever, question is to raise him AI for 32 more or just call. I think vs unknown I'd call but with a read I'd shove, but I bet its pretty close wither way with either one being good. He could easily have hearts as well. Raise flop plz. |
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Re: i might be taking this value thing too far
I would fold pre, and I would def prefer to get it in on the flop or turn, so raise flop. As played I'd call
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Re: i might be taking this value thing too far
I'm having such a hard time putting him on a hand (that you beat) besides lower flushes. I don't think this is an easy call at all.
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Re: i might be taking this value thing too far
Gotta agree with Nielsio. I actually dump this one. Looks a lot like 75, 65, 54.
I also raise the flop about 70% of the time, however I've been getting donked into more than ever lately on low boards. |
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Re: i might be taking this value thing too far
I'm having such a hard time putting him on a hand that you DONT beat.
What is he leading out on the flop with? A7, K7, 88+ Smaller flushdraw? I just can't in good conscious put him on any kind of 5 or 3 that he would lead into your UTG raise with. Considering the turn and river action, it looks like he made a flush as well, so i'm putting it in here. |
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Re: i might be taking this value thing too far
i would just try to get it all in on the flop, at least raise. his line is funky lead/cc/lead, i would DEF call and prob shove against a lot of opponents at this level.
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Re: i might be taking this value thing too far
Shove river.
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