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Old 09-26-2007, 08:25 PM
MatthewRyan MatthewRyan is offline
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Default 3/6 set cr\'d on river

villain is good/agro

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $720.00
BB: $817.10
Hero (UTG): $618.45
CO: $636.00
BTN: $222.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $21.00</font>, 3 folds, BB calls $15.00

Flop: ($45) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $30.00</font>, BB calls $30.00

Turn: ($105) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $78.00</font>, BB calls $78.00

River: ($261) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $162.00</font>, [i]BB Shoves

wtf, call?
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:28 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 set cr\'d on river

wow i'm still thinking...
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:52 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 set cr\'d on river

Any recent history or anything like that?
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: 3/6 set cr\'d on river

Yuck, nasty spot. 810, K10 are only straights out there. K10 you can scratch out cause you said he's good. So its either 810 or random A-xss flushes. Those are the hand that beat you. However, he could easily have AQ, or a busted heart flush draw. I prolly cause here cause of you're weakish bet on the river and you said he's aggro, so he could easily be turning his busted heart draw in a bluff.
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:41 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 set cr\'d on river

i would fold, he has a flush or straight
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:52 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 set cr\'d on river

When I'm playing good I can usually fold this.
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:56 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 set cr\'d on river

He's repping AsTs

Sick spot, I'm not very versed in folding sets thou.

results?
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:22 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 set cr\'d on river

Against most...this is a fold. People just don't c/r bluff the river very much at 2/4-3/6. I think Axs is pretty likely here. I can't really fault you for either choice right here. If he's actually good, this could definitely be a desperation bluff with an A or with QT or w/e but I dunno. GAHHHH this hand is making my head explode.
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:24 AM
MatthewRyan MatthewRyan is offline
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Default Re: 3/6 set cr\'d on river

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Against most...this is a fold. People just don't c/r bluff the river very much at 2/4-3/6. I think Axs is pretty likely here. I can't really fault you for either choice right here. If he's actually good, this could definitely be a desperation bluff with an A or with QT or w/e but I dunno. GAHHHH this hand is making my head explode.

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seriously was my thoughts also.

Anyone have an answer they feel confident about?
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:33 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 set cr\'d on river

AAismyfriend described my thoughts to the tee. This is one of those hands where if I was villain I would be very VERY tempted to c/r ai with a busted flush flush draw or a weak made hand that I want to turn into a bluff because it represents so much strength and a lot of people are only calling with flushes and their river betting range is much wider.

I honestly can't make up my mind here. I really can't. Every time I think we should call I start thinking he has to be nuts to try and bluff here, and when I start thinking that we should fold I think of how exploitable it is for us to fold a hand as strong as a set in this situation, and a good villain should be capable of checkraising as a bluff here a fair amount.

I'm going to just go out on a limb and say call because I hate folding, especially when I have the top of my range against a tricky aggressive player.
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