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Old 09-14-2007, 06:52 PM
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Yeah, I don't think I'm getting away from it. I could def see a random playing TT-AA & AK/AQ clubs this way. Get it AI on flop.

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Old 09-14-2007, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: Tough spot with AA 109r

Yeah i'd be interested in seeing some calcs as well.

edit - at the time i was like wtf and really thought i wasn't doing too well but that it was a close call with the money in the pot.
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Old 09-14-2007, 07:03 PM
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I'd get my money in on the flop but i wouldn't like it.
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:54 AM
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Default Re: Tough spot with AA 109r

I'd get my money in on the flop and be pretty damn happy about. You have AA with 30 BBs in the 100r. What's not to like?

Also, pf call is super standard, and just about the only way you're going to get more chips from anything other than KK, QQ, and AK.
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Old 09-16-2007, 04:27 AM
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Default Re: Tough spot with AA 109r

psst, guys, if PF is super standard, maybe you should think about 3-betting lighter utg+1

not that anybody has the stones to
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Old 09-16-2007, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: Tough spot with AA 109r

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psst, guys, if PF is super standard, maybe you should think about 3-betting lighter utg+1

not that anybody has the stones to

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QFMT Cold calling pf is pretty bad here. The thing is its a minraise UTG your 3betting range shouldn't be thaatttttt much >>>>>>>>> than your opening range.
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Old 09-16-2007, 11:02 AM
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Default Re: Tough spot with AA 109r

No argument for either of those big blanket statements? I'm not convinced. Obviously if I felt he had a hand that was willing to felt right now I would raise pf.
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Old 09-16-2007, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: Tough spot with AA 109r

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Against good players I think cold calling your entire range is reasonable.

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Not to an UTG minraise. I mean, given stack sizes 3betting AA (even if that's the only hand you're 3betting) is completely unexploitable, but cold-calling the minraise ensures a multiway pot against a field of aggressive players where you typically can't comfortably fold or stack off.

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RR is super strong.

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<shrug> If it really bothers you, add some other hands to your 3betting range. Seriously, though, with 30BB facing an UTG min-raise, flat-calling just ensures you're going to play a tough hand with an awkward stack size in a multiway pot in bad relative position. The only time I'd flat here is if I thought it extremely likely somebody would squeeze.

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I prolly stick it in on the flop as well too because everyone is aggro-tarded in the 109r

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Another reason to 3bet preflop?
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