Aggravating Steal Situation

[ChipsAhoya]

SO this has happened to me like 3-4 times now. WTF am I supposed to do now??

Some people fold, I steal complete w/ like 3Q5. A 6 or 7 raises me, and then the bring in K calls two cold?????

I don't want to 3-bet like I had a hand because it will get capped and I have a Q, but how ridiculous is just calling getting 6 to 1 because there is sooo much money in the pot now...?

-ChipsAhoya

[Sevenfold]

You can't three bet becuase you have no hand.

You can't call because you have no hand.

So, let's see, that leaves....

So put it this way, you walk up to a table in a home game with 5 or 6 small bets in the pot. Dealer peels off top three cards (friendly game) and says you can play for 1 bet if you like. You look at (3Q)5. Do you play?

[blumpkin]

where is this game??? the K is out of his mind

[Praxising]

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SO this has happened to me like 3-4 times now. WTF am I supposed to do now??

Some people fold, I steal complete w/ like 3Q5. A 6 or 7 raises me, and then the bring in K calls two cold?????

-ChipsAhoya

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I don't get some of this high-level reasoning, but let me try this. Call. Is this some sort of sin, or what? The mid-guy has some sort of hand that can go south in a second, you have the K right now. You aren't going to fold because you don't want to raise, are you?

Call. Try calling with A23 sometimes.

Hey, what do I know, tho,' right?

[electrical]

Unless the King is leaving the game, just fold. He'll certainly be in another hand with you where you aren't drawing to a Queen.

[RustyBrooks]

Half the time you're going to have to fold when you brick and the remaining times either the K is going to get a nice card or the low card is, or both, and you're going to be drawing 2 cards to get a winning hand. Probably you won't be able to take it down if you hit nice and they both brick.

So the problem with just calling here is that you're committing yourself to 3 more sb bets most of the time at least, and throwing away 1sb the rest of the time.

I think you'll almost always regret calling, and only momentarily regret folding.

[2461Badugi]

Fold.

The problem here has very little to do with you and very much to do with your opponents and the size of the pot. Stealing was a good idea, but now you're in a three-handed raised pot, and part of what that means is that you have virtually zero folding equity. The only way your opponents will give up on their hands before the river is if they brick both fourth and fifth. That doesn't happen often enough to make it worth playing on as a bluff, and you don't have enough hand to play on for value, assuming the 6 or 7 has standards.

Fold, and revel when you get reraised light next time you have a real hand.

[adanthar]

wow are you people serious

beat them all into the pot

[Andy B]

Yeah, I think this is a call. Without the King in there (teehee!), it's a fold.

[Andy B]

Now that I've thought about it some more, if you had a real hand, you'd be jamming with that King in there, right? If you just call, are people going to be able to readily put you on what you have and play accordingly? That might steer this towards a fold.