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Old 08-06-2007, 02:21 AM
mikeJ mikeJ is offline
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Default Re: i suck at donkaments. sunday mulligan hand.

ae/adanthar, you guys are worried about getting accidentally bluffed by a worse two pair right? Or am I missing something?
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Old 08-06-2007, 05:48 AM
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ae/adanthar, you guys are worried about getting accidentally bluffed by a worse two pair right? Or am I missing something?

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no, but i don't see any reason for him to think we'll 3-barrel, but he can def have one club andbluf when checked to
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Old 08-06-2007, 06:00 AM
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Default Re: i suck at donkaments. sunday mulligan hand.

will he ever bet an ace though? probably not, which is why i hate a check here. perhaps this isn't worth much as well, but the fact that he banked on the turn takes away a lot of single club hands from his range. I doubt he was pondering a raise or a fold with the Kc so i think he has a flush or an ace here a lot.
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Old 08-06-2007, 06:11 AM
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will he ever bet an ace though? probably not, which is why i hate a check here. perhaps this isn't worth much as well, but the fact that he banked on the turn takes away a lot of single club hands from his range. I doubt he was pondering a raise or a fold with the Kc so i think he has a flush or an ace here a lot.

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so then he's calling 3-barrels with Ax?
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Old 08-06-2007, 06:21 AM
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Default Re: i suck at donkaments. sunday mulligan hand.

yes, people play dumb, why do you insist on thinking that this random tourney player is on the same level as you? there is definitely value to be had here.
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Old 08-06-2007, 06:31 AM
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Default Re: i suck at donkaments. sunday mulligan hand.

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yes, people play dumb, why do you insist on thinking that this random tourney player is on the same level as you? there is definitely value to be had here.

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i like showdown + people like to bluff me, bet fold if you want, i'd probably CC 65% and bet fold 25%, and CRAI 5% and bet call 5%. those are probably fairly close and style and player choice. it's w/e, if you wanna bet fold then bet fold i dont' care.

also, obviously random player is not on the smae level as me do you knwo who i am duh
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Old 08-06-2007, 07:58 AM
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also, obviously random player is not on the smae level as me do you knwo who i am duh

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Old 08-06-2007, 08:03 AM
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Old 08-06-2007, 08:11 AM
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Default Re: i suck at donkaments. sunday mulligan hand.

When he shoves river, what do you think he has? I would think we would have already heard from a set or flush, although maybe not the nut flush. I think AT is the hand that makes the most sense for him to have, so I don't think I could find a fold here.
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Old 08-06-2007, 10:08 AM
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Default Re: i suck at donkaments. sunday mulligan hand.

Ok I am caught between not wanting to hijack this thread and also not wanting to start a brand new one with the same hand as the topic of discussion, so I will just proceed..


For the people who fold, my question is:
How much less of a shove does it have to be for you to call?

and for the people who call,
How much more of a shove does it have to be for you to fold?


Seems like a fair followup question. I probably play it exactly like the OP (omg i finally got a chance to say "op" AND not butcher the syntax) only because killing self is not an option. By the way, djk, when he shoves the river, what do i think he has? I think he has a flush. It doesnt matter to me whther we "should" have heard from him on previous streets...he is speaking faily loudly now into the ear of someone who has fired full barrels each street.

Seems like one of those hands where I would fold if i were only in one tourney but even if I thought it might be a fold I would just call because at this point on a sunday I am usually in 8 games and would probably just say "f it...worst case I lose and can focus on the others"

(the first step is admitting it, so they say)

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