200NL Deep Bluff

Ben86 · #1 05-27-2007, 03:13 PM

What do you think of this? I'm repping a set / straight / 2 pair deep that wanted to get stacks in against his overpair(?).

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BB ($403.90)
UTG ($394.40)
MP ($200)
Hero ($365.40)
SB ($95)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $7, 1 fold, BB raises to $32, Hero calls $23.

Flop: ($63) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $50, Hero calls $50.

Turn: ($163) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $105, BB calls $105.

River: ($373) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $180.4 (All-In)

illuminati · #2 05-27-2007, 03:14 PM

wtf are you doing on the flop? Seriously, sorry to sound harsh but that is fking gross.

River is also bad (less than half pot).

Ben86 · #3 05-27-2007, 03:17 PM

I know its bad, where should I change it to try and fold out QQ+?

Ben86 · #4 05-27-2007, 03:19 PM

I was going to shove a pair, spade, or oesd giving turn card if he bet

illuminati · #5 05-27-2007, 03:20 PM

I check turn as we have just picked up disguised outs with the OESD. But I always fold flop: putting in way too much effective stacks UNLESS you plan on bluffing 4s/7s/9s/maybe an Ace.

Realise on the river it's prob best to give up as you have <1/2 pot river bet. Interesting to hear other responses on this, but it's my standard.

Ben86 · #6 05-27-2007, 03:22 PM

yeah illum i was gonna shove over on turn if i picked up anything and he bet, i think it looks scary as hell for QQ+ but maybe im wrong here.

orange · #7 05-27-2007, 03:26 PM

bet turn smaller so river shove will be more. i dont think he's folding for that amt though.

illuminati · #8 05-27-2007, 03:29 PM

And the river is a total brick. (although I guess you are repping a set).

Orange,

I read it again and I know it's <1/2 pot but it's still nearly a full BI. Do you think that might psychologically affect villain's decision? (thinking "hmmm 3:1 with overpair" or "omfg a whole BI on this board w/this action")

Readzie · #9 05-27-2007, 03:33 PM

i think people look at the 3:1 not a full buyin

illuminati · #10 05-27-2007, 03:36 PM

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i think people look at the 3:1 not a full buyin

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Good players do...