Tuxedo cumberbund...do you have to wear this?

[DonkeyKongSr]

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also, if you are fully grown, consider buying a tux instead of renting. go for peaked lapels instead of notched. brooks bros has nice stuff.

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Yup. Buying a basic tux with all the accessories is only 2-3x the cost of renting one. Plus, since it's a tux and they all look essentially the same, you don't need to go all out and buy some expensive brand.

[MrMon]

I too recommend buying one if you can ever have reason to wear one more than once. Rented tuxes are generally pretty bad, a nice one fitted to you is definitely the way to go.

No to the cumberbund. I don't like the vest idea either, unless you're thin. Suspenders are fine, you generally don't take the jacket off, so no one will see them. You can wear a standard (solid color) tie with a tux as well, this has been in style for some time, but there is definitely a way to do it correctly. (I've done my tux with a black shirt and silver tie, but my tux allows for that. Some classic styles don't.)

Consult someone locally who knows what they're doing.

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no need for suspenders or a cummerbund. in fact def dont wear suspenders

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Usually guids is right about these things, but if it's a formal black tie event, yes, you need a cummerbund.

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If a tux sans cummberbund is good enough for James Bond, it is good enough for me.


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He was wearing suspenders, though. (At least he was in Casino Royale).

But Bond also has worn notch lapel tuxedos, which is not considered proper by most traditionalists. Just because Bond wears something doesn't mean it's correct.

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Consult someone locally who knows what they're doing.

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He is consulting someone, the rental place.

From the OP, he seems to want to wear his tux in a traditional manner. Meaning no long tie. No black shirt. No silver tie.

Since he wants to be tradititional, then the answer is that he has to wear either a cummerbund or a vest.

If he wants to mix things up a bit, that's fine. But it's not traditional.

[Kneel B4 Zod]

I go very simple - no cumberbund, no vest, just suspenders. it's a classic good look, and can be very formal.

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no need for suspenders or a cummerbund. in fact def dont wear suspenders

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Usually guids is right about these things, but if it's a formal black tie event, yes, you need a cummerbund.

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If a tux sans cummberbund is good enough for James Bond, it is good enough for me.


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He was wearing suspenders, though. (At least he was in Casino Royale).

But Bond also has worn notch lapel tuxedos, which is not considered proper by most traditionalists. Just because Bond wears something doesn't mean it's correct.

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He was? I knew he was w/o cummberbund, but I couldnt remember if he had no suspenders, the only time I can remember seeing him w/o jacket is this scene:



but, I cant really remember.



PS...if Bond does it, of course it is correct... Although, I will say that this is a situation where being able to pull a certain thing off is going to make all the difference.

[AZK]

Yeah.

I'm not going to wear the cumberbund, I've thought about buying a tux, but I'm not sure if I can justify it. The last time I wore one was for HS prom... I entertained the idea, and I was going to just go classic style. I did the vest thing in HS and all the crazy colors and [censored]. That stuff is fun I guess when you are in high school but now just seems kinda lame. I'd rather go with a classic and clean look. Same idea there with the tie vs. bow tie... I think the bow tie is classier, now I just need to learn how to tie my own.

How often do you find yourself wearing your tux? Until I become Bond I can't see myself wearing it enough to justify buying one...

Also side note, what are inverted pleats? I normally have only known dress slacks to have pleats or straight hem... what's an inverted pleat, what body types wear this? Is this for fat people? skinny people? Tall? Short?

Thanks.

Edit: Also the tux shirt should or should not be done french cuff style?

[DonkeyKongSr]

BTW, if you go with a vest, go with a full vest, not that backless vest thing. It looks stupid if you take your jacket off.

[AZK]

I think I remember seeing him wearing white suspenders when he is sitting at the table. Is it also customary to not wear an undershirt with dress shirts? I sweat like a pig so I've always worn one, also most of my shirts were bought pre-poker so the fabric is pretty thin.

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I think I remember seeing him wearing white suspenders when he is sitting at the table. Is it also customary to not wear an undershirt with dress shirts? I sweat like a pig so I've always worn one, also most of my shirts were bought pre-poker so the fabric is pretty thin.

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Actually, I sweat more with an undershirt on, but no, I doubt it matters much. He may have been wearing suspenders, but like soneone said earlier suspenders and cummberbunds have nothing to do with eachother. Its not like the belt/suspender relationship.