25NL 6m- JJ faces reraise pf

[optimus_prime]

No reads on villain, pretty standard reraise preflop.

Fold to his reraise preflop? If I call I'm pretty much playing for set value but can guarantee I'll stack him if I hit.
On the flop this is an easy fold, the only thing I'm beating is a horrendously played AK.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($25.35)
SB ($31.80)
BB ($14.65)
UTG ($57.40)
MP ($31.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $8</font>, Hero calls $4.50.

Flop: ($16.35) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $23.6 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $39.95

[_TKO_]

I would call preflop by default, but maybe it's not as good as it seems... Then again, you're in position.

[Suaimhnea]

Fold preflop.

"Stack value" isn't quite what it seems here. You're calling $4.50 (18 BB) to win (effectively) $25.35 total. Assuming you want a set to continue post-flop (most likely a shove situation anyway), you're an 8-1 dog against. At best, you're stacking 1/9 times, with the few exceptions of a AJ2 or KJ8 flop, where you may be concerned about AA and KK, the most likely holdings of your three-betting opponent. Playing deeper stacked, it may warrant a call, but you're committing a lot of only a 100BB stack here.

[Suaimhnea]

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I would call preflop by default, but maybe it's not as good as it seems... Then again, you're in position.

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Short of flopping a set, is that really that important? An opponent's c-bet is effectively a shove anyway.

[King Car]

I fold to the 4-bet pre.

[BoozeHound]

You have no set value here

[KEW]

As played fold..

If villain has AK I do not see his play as horrendous..Villain can safely assume you do not have AA-QQ(even tho if I had AA and sometime KK I would smooth call his RR)..Villain has bearly more then a PSB bet left so any C-bet commits him for his stack..Villains options are simple in the hand open shove or C/F if you bet or CRAI..