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Old 01-02-2007, 01:44 PM
CrustyFace CrustyFace is offline
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Default Re: 25NL 6m- How bad is this line?

He can use magic.

I misread these things all the time, my bad.
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Old 01-02-2007, 01:46 PM
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Default Re: 25NL 6m- How bad is this line?

Just check behind on the flop...

As played, spew...
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Old 01-02-2007, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: 25NL 6m- How bad is this line?

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Once you bet the flop the first time, the rest looks fine to me. I was trying to work out if a flat-call of the c/r might be better, but there is just too damn much money in the middle, so it looks like a shove, although I'm not too thrilled about it.

But really, I see little point to betting the flop in the first place, you have one of those in-between hands, there is too much risk of getting c/r and now you are at the point where you have to shove and have given up your positional and (hopefully) skill edge.

I would just take another card off and go from there.

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I bet this flop because theres a (slim) chance I take it down right here, or maybe I get a call or two then I'm still in control on the turn.

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I somewhat agree with this, I think villains fire at this pot with ATC after you check behind
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Old 01-02-2007, 03:23 PM
AceLuby AceLuby is offline
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Default Re: 25NL 6m- How bad is this line?

I love this move!!! Why all the hate? 12 outs to the nuts. The push should fold out better club draws if there are any... We probably don't have any FE, but I would take this gamble every day w/ the dead $$$ in there.
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Old 01-02-2007, 03:38 PM
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Default Re: 25NL 6m- How bad is this line?

If u guys are just calling here for a turn card then play in my game every day please. IM shoving here every time like op did. If opp calls we are about 45% to draw out by the river and with the money in the pot we are getting great odds to draw. Op u played this hand goot.
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Old 01-02-2007, 04:59 PM
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If u guys are just calling here for a turn card then play in my game every day please. IM shoving here every time like op did. If opp calls we are about 45% to draw out by the river and with the money in the pot we are getting great odds to draw. Op u played this hand goot.

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Nobody said to flat-call the raise. The issue is whether to bet at all.
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Old 01-02-2007, 05:50 PM
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Default Re: 25NL 6m- How bad is this line?

It would be difficult for me to put BB on a set here because of the minraise into two players. This isn't exactly the type of flop I would want to price in two opponents. I've been noticing the minraise line tends to take down a lot of pots because the assumption is that only a strong hand is willing to do so, but after a c-bet and a call the minraise makes little sense to me if villian has 2P or a set since they are still vulnerable. With two to a flush/straight I'd read this a villian trying to represent the flush draw ,J10 or has a marginal Ax.
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