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Old 10-25-2007, 12:09 AM
yeotaJMU yeotaJMU is offline
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Default bad river... can this be a bluff? 5NL

dont really have any reads on villain... ive played about 20 hands at this point. the first hand i saw as i opened the table i saw villian open shove his stack (about 2$ at that point) into a <.20$ pot on an A J X board and get the pot shipped when a 10 hit the turn and he had KQ. hes been limping most hands preflop and sometimes folds to a raise. anyway im tryin to figure out if i can call this bet from this particular villain.




PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($3.24)
Hero ($9.55)
SB ($3.38)
BB ($2.50)
UTG ($6.88)
MP ($6.37)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls $0.08, CO calls $0.08.

Flop: ($0.33) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.25</font>, MP calls $0.25, CO folds.

Turn: ($0.83) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.7</font>, MP calls $0.70.

River: ($2.23) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $5.28</font>, Hero?.



also will accept help on any street. thanks.
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Old 10-25-2007, 12:12 AM
Jw513 Jw513 is offline
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Default Re: bad river... can this be a bluff? 5NL

This is never a bluff. I've been experimenting the stars NL5 game the past few days, and a big over bet equals nuts 99.99% of the time.

Even from this particular type of villain, I still fold.
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Old 10-25-2007, 12:15 AM
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Default Re: bad river... can this be a bluff? 5NL

I think I call at 5NL against such a nutty villain. He could have missed spades here alot or two pair etc or random garbage.
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Old 10-25-2007, 12:17 AM
yeotaJMU yeotaJMU is offline
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Default Re: bad river... can this be a bluff? 5NL

he called super fast on flop and turn if that helps
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Old 10-25-2007, 12:26 AM
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Default Re: bad river... can this be a bluff? 5NL

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he called super fast on flop and turn if that helps

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This usually indicates a draw.
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Old 10-25-2007, 12:32 AM
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Default Re: bad river... can this be a bluff? 5NL

I'm going to guess this is not a bluff. I agree with the above poster, usually snap calls during the course of a hand indicate a draw. They'll call call, catch the miracle river, and push.

If they don't they'll check the river, and you can bet and get them to fold if you have a med strength hand you're not totally crazy about showing down.

Here, I'd fold.
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Old 10-25-2007, 12:37 AM
yeotaJMU yeotaJMU is offline
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Default Re: bad river... can this be a bluff? 5NL

i almost always dump anything on rivers like this the only question was because now that i have top set and i can beat everything not a straight and seems like type of villain just to shove when straight hits... thanks guys

ps i did fold
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