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Old 10-29-2007, 08:33 AM
Parvex Parvex is offline
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Default NL50 JJ second barrels turn on monotone flop deep

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($51.70)
BB ($75.60)
UTG ($214.10)
MP ($83.35)
CO ($103.65)
Hero ($122.90)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $5.

Flop: ($14.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, CO calls $10.

Turn: ($34.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $25</font>

Villain is 20/7/2. Over ~250 hands.

Good Idea to second barrel this one?
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:53 AM
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Default Re: NL50 JJ second barrels turn on monotone flop deep

I dont know tbh. I put villain on AK+ pre flop. The only hand we can let him fold on turn is QQ, but he can ez have AK here with his A or K of spades and he wont fold that I think. Are you willing to push a blank river ?
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:01 AM
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Default Re: NL50 JJ second barrels turn on monotone flop deep

TT/99 is in his range as well i think.
Even AQ with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] is in his range.
I think we should double barrel here.
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:09 AM
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Default Re: NL50 JJ second barrels turn on monotone flop deep

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Are you willing to push a blank river ?

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I doubt I would. But I also doubt he folds anything he calls with on turn often enough to make it worth it, besides maybe AsQx.
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:10 AM
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Default Re: NL50 JJ second barrels turn on monotone flop deep

So you're bluffing here? What are you excepting to fold here that beats you?
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:37 AM
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Default Re: NL50 JJ second barrels turn on monotone flop deep

I clearly want to take the pot down here, but I'm not just bluffing here, I also want to deny AsQx und 99/TT with a spade a freecard, although I doubt 9s9/TsT will ever call here. And I don't want them to bluff the river, because I doubt I can find a call there.

And I might have a shot at folding out some of his QQ.

So imo the bet has multiple reasons and can not be just called a bluff.
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:45 AM
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Default Re: NL50 JJ second barrels turn on monotone flop deep

I'd check the turn and fold to most river bets.
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:03 AM
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Default Re: NL50 JJ second barrels turn on monotone flop deep

i think this guy re-raises QQ on the flop, same as any other overpair. it looks to me like he has A spade and he's not going away. check/fold turn here.
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:06 AM
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Default Re: NL50 JJ second barrels turn on monotone flop deep

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I'd check the turn and fold to most river bets.

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Old 10-29-2007, 11:07 AM
Check_The_Nuts Check_The_Nuts is offline
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Default Re: NL50 JJ second barrels turn on monotone flop deep

spewy, really spewy. No idea why your betting that turn. Hoping to fold QQ? Not many better hands fold.
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