Big looking draw. Line?

[Guy McSucker]

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i do not get excited seeing that flop.


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See that's why I called it "big looking" and "exciting looking" rather than exciting. If someone has a better made hand and someone else has a bigger club we're not in terribly good shape.

[Oink]

If your hand isnt second best already it will have to dodge a million outs.

Your draws are all draws to what is often the 2nd best hand or a chop.

I cant see how there is any eq edge to push here. Play it passively and try not to spew too many chips if you hit a draw

[Gurravasa]

nah you flushdraw is dirty, and your straightdraw is not solid either, hitting two-pair is never good on this board and hitting trips is not a safe winner either. I don't see whats so exciting except the 2-outer to the straigh flush. 3-betting this flop seems very spewy with a hand like this.

[yourface]

my intuition says call but stove is giving us a lot of equity
maybe I screwed up the hand range for button

I gave him any board pair, any straight draw, any set, small flushes and most flush draws

[veganmav]

3betting this flop sucks. you get 4bet by UTG and other guy folds.

call, and re-eval on turn p.s. wtf do you think the other guy is cold calling with? your frush, may very well be a loser

[shane88888]

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3betting this flop sucks. you get 4bet by UTG and other guy folds.

call, and re-eval on turn p.s. wtf do you think the other guy is cold calling with? your frush, may very well be a loser

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If you put the other guy on a big club, why would he fold to a cap?

[TheHip41]

utg is going to have AA or KK here alot. And he's going to have a club most of the time.

When he raises, you are losing most of the time, and I don't want to go ape with the J high flush draw.