Let 'Em Ride?

[ImprovinNewbie]

Im playing this on Bodog for a fake BR right now to try it out and it seems VERY +ev. whats the rub here. if i dont play the jackpot and raise all of my big pairs and pairs i make can i possibly lose at this game.... i dont see where... what do you guys think?

[playersare]

looks like the Shuffle Master game known as "Let It Ride" in B&M casinos, but the betting is played backwards (Boss Media also has this, presumably to avoid paying royalties). so mathematically the house edge should be virtually identical if playing ideal strategy.

http://wizardofodds.com/letitride

based on the Table 1 payout schedule, you would lose about 3.5% on every bet in the long run. you will get many more losing hands over time than you can make back in good ones.

I do enjoy this game recreationally myself, but it is not +EV no matter how you try and slice it.

[ImprovinNewbie]

THANKS FOR THE INFO

[Scorcho]

The game seems easy until you buy in for $100 and play through it all without even hitting one pair of tens or better. Extremely volatile game.

[CORed]

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Im playing this on Bodog for a fake BR right now to try it out and it seems VERY +ev. whats the rub here. if i dont play the jackpot and raise all of my big pairs and pairs i make can i possibly lose at this game.... i dont see where... what do you guys think?

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One possibility is that the play money game is rigged in favor of the player. I would put the probability that the real money game is -EV at somewhere in the neighborhood of 0.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999 9999999999

[jogger08152]

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Im playing this on Bodog for a fake BR right now to try it out and it seems VERY +ev. whats the rub here. if i dont play the jackpot and raise all of my big pairs and pairs i make can i possibly lose at this game.... i dont see where... what do you guys think?

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One possibility is that the play money game is rigged in favor of the player. I would put the probability that the real money game is -EV at somewhere in the neighborhood of 0.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999 9999999999

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No, the correct probability is 0.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999 99999976441

[Wyman]

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Im playing this on Bodog for a fake BR right now to try it out and it seems VERY +ev. whats the rub here. if i dont play the jackpot and raise all of my big pairs and pairs i make can i possibly lose at this game.... i dont see where... what do you guys think?

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One possibility is that the play money game is rigged in favor of the player. I would put the probability that the real money game is -EV at somewhere in the neighborhood of 0.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999 9999999999

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No, the correct probability is 0.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999999999999999999999 99999976441

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Actually, since the EV is fixed by the definition of the game (and card generation scheme -- be it shuffling mechanism in a B&M casino, or random number generator in an online casino), the probability of the real money game being -EV is either 0 or 1. The numbers you are (jokingly) stating are your (purported) confidences that the game is -EV.

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