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Old 09-05-2007, 11:59 AM
Guy McSucker Guy McSucker is offline
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Default I\'m playing scared - help me!

Online $10/20.

Button is a decent-seeming 28/19 type over a small sample. Note tells me he doesn't keep firing on the big streets with missed AK and the like.

BB is an asset to any game, 50/0/0.3 with no clue at all or so it seems.

I open K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in MP. Button threebets. BB calls. I call.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and I immediately start to fear AK, trips etc.

What is your plan?
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Old 09-05-2007, 12:04 PM
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how does c/r sound because your equity seems decent vs 2?
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Old 09-05-2007, 12:06 PM
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i would

cc down if its heads up
cr if the idiot comes along
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Old 09-05-2007, 01:52 PM
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i would
cc down if its heads up
cr if the idiot comes along


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I like the cr if it's 3-way, but you're saying there's no raise to be found heads up? Hero has > 50% equity here against Button's range (assuming top 10%).
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Old 09-05-2007, 02:04 PM
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I don't try a check raise here. I like more of a wa/wb line. I don't think betting out is horrible, there is a chance BB could protect our hand from BB with a worse hand, but if we get raised i'm worried about if we have the best hand and if BB is that bad then I don't mind him coming along. I'll probably c/c all the way down.
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Old 09-05-2007, 02:06 PM
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i would

cc down if its heads up
cr if the idiot comes along

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Though with the BDFD along with the 1 card OESD, I'd be tempted to put some action in on the flop HU...
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Old 09-05-2007, 02:25 PM
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I like the cr if it's 3-way, but you're saying there's no raise to be found heads up? Hero has > 50% equity here against Button's range (assuming top 10%).


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Right, but that equity comes from the combination of the chance my pair of Qs is good and the chance I suck out.

I won't get much action from this guy if my Qs are good, and I don't want to give action if they're not. Also I would put my chances of getting him to fold a better hand at the smaller end of 0.
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Old 09-05-2007, 03:40 PM
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He will give you action with AJ, AT, KQ, KJ, 99. If you're going by your read, why would it be correct to take a calldown line since he likely won't be betting a worse hand?

I guess I'm just not convinced that this is a WA/WB situation. Even if you're behind you have a lot of outs to improve.
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Old 09-05-2007, 03:44 PM
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he's going to keep betting all of those hands that you mentioned.
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Old 09-05-2007, 03:53 PM
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I guess I'm just not convinced that this is a WA/WB situation. Even if you're behind you have a lot of outs to improve.

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wtf do the letters wa and wb have to do with anything

the value u get from worse hands when u cr < (the value u get from worse hands when u cc + money u save vs beetter hands when u cc)
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