Moneymaker's bluff against Farha

[the_casino_kid]

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farha is a nit

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how is farha a nit?? god i hate the word nit....farha is a
really good cash game player..i;m so sick of everyone just wanting to post, on every thread there is a guy who says 'he's a nit'. Do you even know what a nit is?

[the_casino_kid]

just for the record it was a horribe bluff, he stared down farha, had his hand over his mouth, was leaning forward, looked stiff as a wall, he overbet the pot...and thats just the beginning of what was wrong with this..

but it worked so whatever i don't know

[cabbagehead7]

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..i;m so sick of everyone just wanting to post, on every thread there is a guy who says 'he's a nit'. Do you even know what a nit is?

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but it worked so whatever i don't know

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.......pretty nitty posting. By the way, you uber leveled yourself on so many levels that I am still laughing.

[the_casino_kid]

you are!

[PokrLikeItsProse]

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just for the record it was a horribe bluff, he stared down farha, had his hand over his mouth, was leaning forward, looked stiff as a wall, he overbet the pot...and thats just the beginning of what was wrong with this..

but it worked so whatever i don't know

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Yes, you clearly don't know. While Moneymaker had more than what was in the pot, Farha had about the size of the pot left, making it effectively a pot-sized river bet. As I pointed out earlier, in terms of the bet-sizing and what Moneymaker's betting pattern represented, this was a very good bluff. If he had actually turned a flush, he should have bet it exactly the same way. A bad bluff would have been Moneymaker shoving on the turn like an internet donkey playing a $5 tournament.

Don't overestimate physical tells. Moneymaker was exhibiting nervousness, but he could just have easily been nervous that he had a strong hand that wouldn't be called.

[Matt Williams]

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just for the record it was a horribe bluff, he stared down farha, had his hand over his mouth, was leaning forward, looked stiff as a wall, he overbet the pot...and thats just the beginning of what was wrong with this..

but it worked so whatever i don't know

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Yes, you clearly don't know. While Moneymaker had more than what was in the pot, Farha had about the size of the pot left, making it effectively a pot-sized river bet. As I pointed out earlier, in terms of the bet-sizing and what Moneymaker's betting pattern represented, this was a very good bluff. If he had actually turned a flush, he should have bet it exactly the same way. A bad bluff would have been Moneymaker shoving on the turn like an internet donkey playing a $5 tournament.

Don't overestimate physical tells. Moneymaker was exhibiting nervousness, but he could just have easily been nervous that he had a strong hand that wouldn't be called.

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In Moneymaker's book, he said he made the bet based on a tell that Farha had knowing he wouldn't be called.

[PokrLikeItsProse]

There's a difference between making judgements based on physical tells that you think you notice from watching a few isolated hands on TV and physical tells that you think you notice from having played all day with the same player.

[EWS87]

monkeymaker knew farha was gonna fold because he was playing with his chips in his left hand...didnt u see his dad pick up on that?? he obv told him on a break

[grdred944]

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just for the record it was a horribe bluff, he stared down farha, had his hand over his mouth, was leaning forward, looked stiff as a wall, he overbet the pot...and thats just the beginning of what was wrong with this..

but it worked so whatever i don't know

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LOL -- for the record.

Out of one side of your mouth you proclaim Sammy to be this great player but out of the other Moneymaker's bluff -- which worked (for whatever reason)was, using your word, (sic) horribe. Reconcile your misguided thought process here. You know, for the record.

[killsadie]

moneymakers dad puts me on tilt more than chris moneymaker.