goofy spot morning 8r

[shaundeeb]

I felt this hand should be more range question than anything else, so if you are in my spot what are you shoving, what are you calling, what are you folding. Im the BB this hand
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) UPF Handconverter

UTG (t2110)
UTG+1 (t14200)
MP1 (t4000)
MP2 (t10000)
MP3 (t7585)
CO (t11505)
Button (t33190)
SB (t11090)
BB (t4850)

Preflop:
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t2110</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t2110, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB calls t2035, BB....

[Patrio]

Shoving QQ+, calling... none I quess.. possebly JJ, and folding anything else

[shaundeeb]

loll these are not thinking players, don't give them that much credit. Also think that we have 5k stack after break and it's a long way to go.

[tiger7210]

I shove QQ+,AK. I probably fold everything else. Mid pairs just dont play very well in a 4 way pot. Calling can't be good for almost 1/2 our chips looking to stop and go unless you have some sort of read that both MP1 and SB would actually fold if they miss or don't improve. I find the play in the 8r to be poor enough you can find better spots than playing a mid pair 88-JJ multiway.

[shaundeeb]

tiger so you're folding AQs JJ really?

[TwistedEcho]

TT+ AQ+

[registrar]

Does MP1 ever fold to a push? I've never played the $8r.

[shaundeeb]

registar I never know what these people will do but I imagine they are bad enough to fold, also I thought I had FE on 1 of the 2 sometime not sure which one it ends up being but often I get a HU sidepot for 5kish while ahead of their range and a 8k mainpot to gamble with 3 ways.

[tiger7210]

I guess the more i think about it JJ-AQs i shove and gamble with as The only hands I'm worried about are MP1 cold calling w AA/KK. SB prob has a mid pair or AQ at best so even if short stack has a hand we can compensate for possibly losing to him with a sidepot over MP1 and SB. If i have any read on MP1 of being a donk then my range definitely opens up to probably shoving with TT+ but then I need to shove to get the chips in PF looking to build a sidepot against the other 2 so I'm definitely not flat calling. I've seen donks call with a much smaller pair so I think shoving PF is better so they can't get away from a small pair post flop and with AQ i need to see all 5 anyways.

So I think TT,JJ,AQs is definitely reasonable. I cant for the life of me think what MP1 flat calls with but like you said they are not thinking players, any pair is a big hand to some players at this level.

[shaundeeb]

tiger your thought process is def much better in your last post but because of what you said i.e any pair other random [censored] that your range should be wider than 10s should be going as low as 88/99.