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Old 03-14-2007, 02:16 AM
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man i dont like this

if you have a 7, don't you shove expecting to get paid?
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:55 AM
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man i dont like this

if you have a 7, don't you shove expecting to get paid?

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obviously not given that i bluffed this. you shove a 7 here because there's no reason not to, not because it works every time.
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Old 03-14-2007, 03:12 AM
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Old 03-14-2007, 03:18 AM
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If you get looked up, I think you deserve strassa's title of "can have ANYTHING"

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why does whether i get called change whether I can have K9 here or not? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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From the villians perspective, I'm sure K9 is the last hand he's expecting to see.
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:16 AM
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this is great with a read hes nitty or scared money, but without reads this is awwwwwwwwful.
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:43 AM
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i got some issues with this:

1. it's pretty damn hard to rep a 7 (and what's more, you can't have A7 or 87) in a 3-bet pot with 100 bb stacks, mainly because of psychology. people just think toward big card hands.

2. he might just get paranoid and talk himself into calling since he bet so small

3. his tiny preflop 3-bet and tiny river bet make him look like he's not a very good player

4. he has an ace, and it could be AK. he could be betting small with AA figuring he has the deck cripled and wants to make some money on his hand
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:22 PM
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Well, this one got mixed reviews. Villain tanked to the last second and folded what I assume was his KK and I showed.
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:27 PM
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if you plan on floating the flop then betting the turn is way better than shoving river.
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:28 PM
Jason Strasser (strassa2) Jason Strasser (strassa2) is offline
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KK?

Anyway I think I like a smaller raise on the river. I know for sure you can have a 7 here, the issue is that its harder to rep any type of made hand (like a fh) so I am usually too scared to try this move. I also feel like every time I have a seven here I get paid off. I usually give up here, and I know you do too, but I guess once in a while if the gut tells you, I think a play like this is fine and probably makes you tougher to play against.
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:34 PM
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From the results, it looks like your play on every street is pretty -EV, with the possible exception of the river push. But if he in fact had KK, then I'd say his hand is at the weakest end of his range and he still timed down to the last second. But of course we'll never know what he had. Maybe he folded QQ and your river push is +++EV.
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