Folding AKo Preflop

[StewiesMinion]

Playing 8 handed (about 35 players left) in a live tournament full of bad players. Blinds 200-400, average player has about t5500.

I have a very tight image, t8000, and in EP get dealt
A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
I raise to 1200

CO goes all in for 2100
BB goes all in and has me covered.

I go into the tank and decide that the CO likely has A-rag and the BB has a high PP and I muck the hand.

Would anyone else muck this hand and was it a bad move or just marginal?

Results in white:
<font color="white">My read was close I was against A7s and TT, Tens hold and would have held against me. </font>

[TheSauce]

Against 2 players you're most likely flipping at best. I don't think folding is that bad. Someone with more tourney experience could answer better.

[Fermion5]

AK is a great hand because it has a lot of fold equity. you can reraise and get people off middle pairs and such preflop, knowing that if they do make a gutsy call you're rarely in bad shape. Thats why sometimes i like to limp with them in early position and try to reraise people off their hand without committing a huge amount of chips myself.


Not quite sure how to calculate the odds myself since there will be a side pot between you and the BB. I think you are getting the right price or close to it even though one of your aces is gone. It's basically even money and you've already committed 1200.

If you think the players are bad and you have a tight image then you can definitely exploit that and not have to gamble here in a coinflip.

I don't think either decision is wrong.

[Javanewt]

With BB's going all-in after your raise and CO's all-in, I can easily fold this hand. Why have a coin flip now, especially when you think one of your outs is taken? Not worth my tourney life.

[Mazzinger]

With a raise and a re-raise after your original bet... easy fold. It's not worth it to risk everything for a coin flip. Good lay down.

[StewiesMinion]

I think it may have been a bad play because I'm leaving myself with an M around 10, only had to call 6800 into a 1150 pot, I felt it was nearly a flip, and since the average player's M is below 10 it would turn into a pushfest very quickly as the blinds increase.

[vixticator]

I disagree, call here. CO's range is huge. Button is isolating with a lot of hands, prob 99+ AK/AQ. There is t5400 in the pot and it cost t6800 to call. And you have AK. You play to win the game. Call.

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

How many places pay?

Meh. Looks like a call to me, you're not a 2:1 dog vs both their ranges.

[Albert Moulton]

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BB goes all in and has me covered.


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I think you still have enough chips to let BB go heads up with the short stack. He probably has a pocket pair, or AT-AK. I would want to fold and wait a little longer.

If I had less chips, like 3-9 times the big blind, I'd insta call. But here, I think you can fold.

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

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BB goes all in and has me covered.


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I think you still have enough chips to let BB go heads up with the short stack. He probably has a pocket pair, or AT-AK. I would want to fold and wait a little longer.

If I had less chips, like 3-9 times the big blind, I'd insta call. But here, I think you can fold.

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This is way too consevative for a fast live tournament (maybe 8-10 hands per blind level). In 15-20 hands he's going to be so low on chips as to have nearly zero fold equity on any push. There absolutely no logic behind folding here. In this fast a tournament, you have to go hyper-aggro at 20-25 big blinds. Waiting for big hands until you have 10 BB or less is suicide.