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Old 09-04-2007, 08:55 PM
Mat Mat is offline
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Default 400NL - fold top and bottom two on the flop ?

Villain is 20/16/3 (183h), I haven't played with him before but I don't play at these hours usually and he seems like a good reg, thinking player.
On this session we have almost no history, I have 3-bet him pre 1 or 2 times and I haven't been overaggro with him, I can't even remember having raised one of his c-bets.

Everest Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00/$4.00 (HH Converter by Kreatief)

CO (777.00)
Button (417.40)
SB (559.20)
BB (333.90)
MP2 (86.00)
MP3 (400.00)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $16.00</font>, Hero calls $16.00, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>,

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( $38 )
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets $28.00</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $100.00</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $338.00</font>,

I very well could be behind his range here, this is not an appropriate flop to 3-bet with air and it seems to me like he wouldn't do that with AJ or AQ (stupid play right ?) but the board is drawy so I don't know.
It's really weak to fold there, isn't it ?
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Old 09-04-2007, 08:57 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - fold top and bottom two on the flop ?

Call quickly.
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Old 09-04-2007, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - fold top and bottom two on the flop ?

This has to be the worst laydown I ever made, just wanted to be sure.
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Old 09-04-2007, 09:47 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - fold top and bottom two on the flop ?

Don't think a fold is really that bad here.
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Old 09-04-2007, 09:58 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - fold top and bottom two on the flop ?

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Call quickly.

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disagree
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:00 PM
Teh1337zor Teh1337zor is offline
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Default Re: 400NL - fold top and bottom two on the flop ?

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Call quickly.

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disagree

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sameee
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:00 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - fold top and bottom two on the flop ?

um the thing is, if you fold here, o dont really know why you raised the flop in the first place. arent you trying to get your money in?

i hate your call preflop but once you call pre how do justify folding here. there a ton of top pair + fdraw + str8draw type hands he can have here. obv the hands that have you crushed are AAKK1010.

I would not fold.
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:06 PM
Teh1337zor Teh1337zor is offline
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Default Re: 400NL - fold top and bottom two on the flop ?

isnt this the classic slightly ahead/way behind
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:08 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - fold top and bottom two on the flop ?

snap call
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:09 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - fold top and bottom two on the flop ?

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isnt this the classic slightly ahead/way behind

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yeah but odds are too good now
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