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Old 11-30-2007, 10:05 PM
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Default $16 - 96s late short

Fold > stop 'n go > push?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (6 handed) by Hand Converter CG

MP (t1495)
CO (t4280)
Button (t3970)
SB (t1700)
Hero (t755)
UTG (t1300)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t400</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t400, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero ??
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:14 PM
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Default Re: $16 - 96s late short

Fold. UTG's range is probably too tight to even think about this &amp; you're a bit too short to have enough FE after the flop.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:38 PM
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Default Re: $16 - 96s late short

As much as our stack does suck, I think I just fold. Pot will be too big to have much FE as TFG said.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:39 PM
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Default Re: $16 - 96s late short

easy fold

you gain more value shoving atc opened to you. wait for that spot
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:48 PM
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Default Re: $16 - 96s late short

What hands do we push the hand before? If we have 8BB stack and about to hit BB?
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:50 PM
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Default Re: $16 - 96s late short

You mean 4 BB stack. I would take some neg ev shoves when utg b/c they'll likely be more expected value than calling off in BB. Having no FE later sucks too. So I would be shoving most suited connectors, pairs, broadways, aces, suited ks, a very large range.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:54 PM
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Default Re: $16 - 96s late short

im shoving very wide

any ace
K5+
Q8+
J9o T9o
any broadway
any sooted connector 56+
any pocket pair
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:59 PM
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Default Re: $16 - 96s late short

What about shoving ATC?
Hitting BB with no FE and having just 2.5 BB after blinds hit sucks.
Even if we get a hand and double we just have 5 BB's then.
Where as if we win a 30/70 or get a fold because we have FE with 4BB's and pushing UTG we have 5.5/8 BB's and a fair chance to get ITM.
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: $16 - 96s late short

im sure it wouldnt make a huge difference shoving atc vs the theorized range i gave you since you're shoving so wide
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:33 AM
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Default Re: $16 - 96s late short

if i thought there was any chance that youd get it heads up id probably just say stick it in but it still kinda sucks as is and id usually just fold.
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