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Old 10-14-2007, 10:40 AM
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Default 50nl KK vs very agressive player

Villain is 36/16/9.5 over 160 hands.. so very agressive, but he limps the CO on this hand..wtf??

Had just sat down at the table maybe 1 orbit earlier and hadn't played a hand that I recall, maybe stole the blinds once.

Should I just re-raise the flop and hope to get it in there? I figured this was a WA/WB situation.. so I'd just let him bet, then pretty much the worst 2 cards in the deck roll off on the turn and river for me.

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP ($58.10)
CO ($85.95)
Hero ($49)
SB ($50.25)
BB ($57.20)
UTG ($99.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $2.

Flop: ($5.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $7</font>, Hero calls $4.

Turn: ($19.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets $9</font>, Hero calls $9.

River: ($37.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets $16</font>, Hero ????

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Old 10-14-2007, 10:44 AM
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Default Re: 50nl KK vs very agressive player

since hes v.agro and pretty loose i'd just repop him on the flop and get it in now. hes going broke with a FD a Q for sure, maybe even an ui mid pp that thinks your FOS... if he has a 5 oh well. i think if you get ai on the flop you're getting the best of it vs his range
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Old 10-14-2007, 10:47 AM
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Default Re: 50nl KK vs very agressive player

Hmm he's checked raised us so it doesn't look like he is going anywhere, although he is very aggressive so his strength is not genuine. I either try and get it now with a raise to about $22 OR call and shove his bet on a non-club turn. The second play is a little riskier for obvious reasons but I like this play a lot.

As played I call the turn and fold the river.
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Old 10-14-2007, 10:52 AM
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Default Re: 50nl KK vs very agressive player

on the turn i like a shove - we have enough equity to valuebet and to protect vs a 4th club. you'll run into clubs maybe 30-40% of the time?
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Old 10-14-2007, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: 50nl KK vs very agressive player

I like repopping flop to $20 or so, call a shove obviously. I really don't think you can get it in on the turn or river, and as played I'd just fold river
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Old 10-14-2007, 10:58 AM
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Default Re: 50nl KK vs very agressive player

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I like repopping flop to $20 or so, call a shove obviously. I really don't think you can get it in on the turn or river, and as played I'd just fold river

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Old 10-14-2007, 11:01 AM
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Default Re: 50nl KK vs very agressive player

4 bet shove flop.
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Old 10-14-2007, 11:37 AM
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Default Re: 50nl KK vs very agressive player

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I like repopping flop to $20 or so, call a shove obviously. I really don't think you can get it in on the turn or river, and as played I'd just fold river

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I agree with this line, I should have rereaised the flop.. I run into this spot a lot vs the maniacal people where you're crushing them most likely and I try to get their stacks, then so many scare cards come I don't know what to do.

I folded the river.. he showed me 9 high.
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Old 10-14-2007, 12:30 PM
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Default Re: 50nl KK vs very agressive player

I'd 4bet him on the flop, which allows for shoving on the turn (if it doesn't bring an ace)
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Old 10-14-2007, 12:56 PM
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Default Re: 50nl KK vs very agressive player

IMO river bet sizing looks a lot like a blocker/value bet coming from Qx a lot.
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