Small Pot-thread

Dumle · #1 09-19-2007, 11:15 AM

There is alot of talk about big hands on these boards. How do I get value from the nuts? Should I fold AA to his check-raise all-in? This is all well and good and most of our profits come from opponents making big mistakes against our big bets. However, I would like to have a discussion about small pots. I know I am struggling in many situations and I just end up doing something on feel, rather than logic and reason. IMO, you could probably add another one or two BB to your winrate if you just shaped up your small pot-decisions. And I know I don't mind another BB. So, I dub this the small pot-thread. The idea is that we all post hands where the pot is small and discuss. Decide for yourself if you think the pot is small or not, but please no "should I push this river with my set, even though I am 300 bb deep?"-questions.

Here's a hand. I don't have a good read on MP, but he seemed to be on the loosish side.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($61.73)
BB ($51.76)
Hero ($47.50)
MP ($59)
CO ($48.76)
Button ($49)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $2, MP calls $2, 3 folds.

Flop: ($4.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $4, MP raises to $8, Hero calls $4.

Turn: ($20.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks.

River: ($20.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks.

Final Pot: $20.75

Dumle

sightless · #2 09-19-2007, 11:18 AM

Bet turn
bet river
you have a straight and need to get money intot he pot you cant expect him to bet anythign good on such scary board

Perk76 · #3 09-19-2007, 11:21 AM

Good thought for a topic (I cant get HH's now while at work though).

Sightless, maybe I am brain dead already, but I dont think he has a straight here.

sightless · #4 09-19-2007, 11:22 AM

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Good thought for a topic (I cant get HH's now while at work though).

Sightless, maybe I am brain dead already, but I dont think he has a straight here.

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cool
missread the hand. I fold this on the flop then. Very bad spot for top pair. we will either win a small pot or lose a big one.

I thought we had oesd on the flop

Rythm · #5 09-19-2007, 11:24 AM

This looks fine to me. You're not likely to get paid by better hands or get worse ones to fold on turn/river, and I think the minraise is a worse hand too often to just fold flop.

scallop · #6 09-19-2007, 11:25 AM

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Bet turn
bet river
you have a straight and need to get money intot he pot you cant expect him to bet anythign good on such scary board

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Are all your posts this bad?

I think the hand played out fine for you. I dont think I'm calling a river bet, depends on villian tho, but seeing showdown OOP with this hand on this board is pretty sweet.

sightless · #7 09-19-2007, 11:30 AM

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Bet turn
bet river
you have a straight and need to get money intot he pot you cant expect him to bet anythign good on such scary board

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Are all your posts this bad?

I think the hand played out fine for you. I dont think I'm calling a river bet, depends on villian tho, but seeing showdown OOP with this hand on this board is pretty sweet.

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yeah my posts are always that bad, just put me on ignore and you wont have to read them ever again

scallop · #8 09-19-2007, 11:34 AM

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Bet turn
bet river
you have a straight and need to get money intot he pot you cant expect him to bet anythign good on such scary board

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Are all your posts this bad?

I think the hand played out fine for you. I dont think I'm calling a river bet, depends on villian tho, but seeing showdown OOP with this hand on this board is pretty sweet.

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yeah my posts are always that bad, just put me on ignore and you wont have to read them ever again

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Ok - I didnt mean anything by that, clearly you saw your error and have explained it. No need to get personal.

sightless · #9 09-19-2007, 11:37 AM

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Bet turn
bet river
you have a straight and need to get money intot he pot you cant expect him to bet anythign good on such scary board

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Are all your posts this bad?

I think the hand played out fine for you. I dont think I'm calling a river bet, depends on villian tho, but seeing showdown OOP with this hand on this board is pretty sweet.

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yeah my posts are always that bad, just put me on ignore and you wont have to read them ever again

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Ok - I didnt mean anything by that, clearly you saw your error and have explained it. No need to get personal.

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cool

AZplaya · #10 09-19-2007, 11:46 AM

meh I'm not raising 109 for tp value. I would fold to the flop minraise. Your OOP, your hand is super marginal and the board is gross.