TPGK 3 bet pot

Profish2285 · #1 11-20-2007, 05:23 PM

Villain runs at 30/6/2. I didnt see a point in raising as Im folding out pretty much anything he is doing this with that I beat. I also figured a flush draw is a small part of his range so theres not much protection either. Comments on line are appreciated.

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saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($33.85)
SB ($8.75)
BB ($88.50)
UTG ($66.50)
Hero ($66.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $1.75, Hero raises to $6.65, 3 folds, UTG calls $4.90.

Flop: ($14.05) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $8, Hero calls $8.

Turn: ($30.05) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $20, Hero calls $20.

River: ($70.05) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $31.85 (All-In), Hero calls $31.65 (All-In).

Final Pot: $133.35

mickeyzee · #2 11-20-2007, 05:27 PM

I think I like a call pf from a 30/6 UTG raiser. Calling on flop and turn look good, river call is close though because I think you have a chop at best and most of the time run into AK or a weirdly played KK.

Schiester · #3 11-20-2007, 05:27 PM

Whats the hand sample size profish?

thoman8r · #4 11-20-2007, 05:29 PM

I don't like it. What are you beating here other than a bluff? At best your chopping but more likely this is AK or AA . I dunno, maybe it's weak but I fold the turn.

I also think it's ok not to 3-bet this guy pre-flop. A 6% PFR has a pretty tight range UTG. I'd imagine is 3-bet calling range is even tighter.

Profish2285 · #5 11-20-2007, 05:29 PM

Over a thousand hands. This guy is more spastic than his stats suggest though. AK he is more than likely 4 betting same with AA/KK obviously. AA/KK is completely out of his range I will say, AK is a normal part. Also, what is the alternative here? If I raise his donk to a normal size then I am pretty much committed.

powderman · #6 11-20-2007, 05:37 PM

I would also just call PF and call down in much smaller pot.
As played, it's hard to fold river but the right move IMO.

Profish2285 · #7 11-20-2007, 05:45 PM

Oh and one more thing, but the point of the river Im getting like 3:1 even with those odds I cant call here? I think this could be something random 25% of the time but maybe Im being optimistic. Everyone who says fold, when are you getting away from the hand then, the turn or river?

thoman8r · #8 11-20-2007, 05:55 PM

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Oh and one more thing, but the point of the river Im getting like 3:1 even with those odds I cant call here? I think this could be something random 25% of the time but maybe Im being optimistic. Everyone who says fold, when are you getting away from the hand then, the turn or river?

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As I previously stated, I'm folding the turn. He's not double-barreling with JJ-KK against our smooth call so what are we hoping he has, AJs? I don't think so...

AZplaya · #9 11-20-2007, 06:10 PM

do you have a fold to 3 bet stat on him? Alot of players will play A10 like it's the nuts on this board.

Profish2285 · #10 11-20-2007, 06:12 PM

No, how do I even get that? When as I was at the table with him he came off as a loose idiot so I really dont think his range is nearly as tight as everyone else does. Trying not to be too results oriented but I ended up losing but not to anything that anyone here thinks. Up until the river I was fairly confident I was ahead and I was only pissed off when it made other Aces chop with me. My read was off about what he had but I was right that he is definitely looser than his stats suggest.