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Old 11-22-2007, 03:46 PM
Orsman Orsman is offline
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Default Good spot to raise allin?

Villain is unknown and I'm new to the table. Have seen him limp once before. I isolated and got 3bet from blinds and folded.

He ista minraised me on flop. His turn bet is kinda weakish and I think this is a decent spot to shove him in... or maybe just spewy against unknown

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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BB: $81
UTG: $106
MP: $81.85
Hero (CO): $98.35
BTN: $74
SB: $52.45

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, MP calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.50</font>, 3 folds, MP calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $14</font>, Hero calls $7

Turn: ($38.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $22</font>, Hero raises or folds?
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: Good spot to raise allin?

hell yeah. I shove alot here [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] . But im a spewtard, and do it for kicks :P . But seriously i think you got alot of FE here.
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: Good spot to raise allin?

Just call the flop and turn bet, your fold equity is low vs an unknown, and bluffing unknowns is not a good plan. He's giving you 60-22 or about 3:1 on your call, so you need to make 20$ in a almost 100$ pot, so I think I turn call is fine, plus your A outs are probably worth about 1/3 here, so you have an extra out.
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: Good spot to raise allin?

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hell yeah. I shove alot here [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] . But im a spewtard, and do it for kicks :P . But seriously i think you got alot of FE here.

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you are def overestimating FE here. villain has put in 1/2 his stack.

im indifferent to a raise or fold tbh. as long as you dont call [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: Good spot to raise allin?

lol wait hes not 100BB dont raise turn in this case, too little FE

Edit: I would also shove flop in that case... I mean were are flipping against a queen, so that is the best way to play this i think. With his stack size.
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: Good spot to raise allin?

Salut. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I don't think it's spewy at all to shove here. We have very high FE against Qx unless it's Q2 or KQ and a lot of the bad villains will make a weak turn bet into an overcard here because they're lost. Only problem is that he takes the same line and betsizing with 2x but we have some equity.

Edit: Ok I also missed stack sizes, Ill just leave what I wrote to be applied for standard stack sizes.
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:53 PM
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Default Re: Good spot to raise allin?

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Salut. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I don't think it's spewy at all to shove here. We have very high FE against Qx unless it's Q2 or KQ and a lot of the bad villains will make a weak turn bet into an overcard here because they're lost. Only problem is that he takes the same line and betsizing with 2x but we have some equity.

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A Queen (not AQ ) is a pretty big part of his range, i dont think he folds enough on the turn now. So shoving flop is best, we are flipping against a Q and have a ton of FE.
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: Good spot to raise allin?

Salut. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I edited my post after you quoted me.
I disagree with AQ being a big part. It's there but without more information than that he's only limped once before I would consider it much less likely than QT,QJ,Q9.
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:58 PM
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Lol not AQ i mean A Queen :P . AQ is small part of his range obv.
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:58 PM
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Salut. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Oic. Then yes.
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