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Old 11-21-2007, 05:49 PM
tbaarslag tbaarslag is offline
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Default Help, I am getting raped by a LAG

Villain is running 30/25/3 and is raping me. I had no chance to find out if he is a good or bad lag.

He floated me 2 or 3 times before this hand and I chickened out every time and folded to his turn bet.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed)

Button ($224.00)
SB ($188.00)
BB ($13.65)
UTG ($388.34)
Hero ($278.30)
CO ($53.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $7, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($17) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, Button calls $12.

Turn: ($41) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $39</font>, Hero calls $39.

<font color="blue"> Turn check is for value, of course </font>

River: ($119) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $119</font>, Hero...

I expect villain to give up or bluff smaller, but he mashes the pot again. Does this have significant influence on his range?
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:51 PM
LOwrestling2001 LOwrestling2001 is offline
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Default Re: Help, I am getting raped by a LAG

fire the 2nd barrel against this guy, esp if you feel your hand is good, and to prevent him from floating you.
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:51 PM
AllIn3High AllIn3High is offline
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Default Re: Help, I am getting raped by a LAG

Once you check and calling this turn you absolutely have to call his river bet.

Why? because you checked to induce a bluff and you got it: now call.
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: Help, I am getting raped by a LAG

i'd call.
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:56 PM
Asgrow13 Asgrow13 is offline
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Default Re: Help, I am getting raped by a LAG

Given the history you described I'd call. Think his range is still pretty wide here.
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Old 11-21-2007, 06:14 PM
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Default Re: Help, I am getting raped by a LAG

his big bets make me wanna call, but it depends how good he is. he might know that we'll think this and be leveling. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 11-21-2007, 06:25 PM
ImpulseKid ImpulseKid is offline
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Default Re: Help, I am getting raped by a LAG

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Once you check and calling this turn you absolutely have to call his river bet.

Why? because you checked to induce a bluff and you got it: now call.

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Old 11-21-2007, 06:25 PM
Shizzle12345 Shizzle12345 is offline
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Default Re: Help, I am getting raped by a LAG

big pairs arent really a part of his range here. So i call. you even beat worse 2 pairs now lol.
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Old 11-21-2007, 06:26 PM
ZManODS ZManODS is offline
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Default Re: Help, I am getting raped by a LAG

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He floated me 2 or 3 times before this hand and I chickened out every time and folded to his turn bet.

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How do you know he floated you? He may have had you beat and was betting for value. Obviously you didn't have that much if you folded each time. How many hands do you have on him?

Either way, as played, call the river but preferably raise the turn.
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Old 11-21-2007, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: Help, I am getting raped by a LAG

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I expect villain to give up or bluff smaller

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I strongly disagree with this.

If he bluffs 60% pot = 71$, we have to fold 37% of the time for him to break even.
If he bluffs 70% pot = 83$, we have to fold 41% of the time.
If he bluffs 80% pot = 95$, we have to fold 44% of the time.
If be bluffs pot, we have to fold 50% of the time.

Now tell me what bets you are more inclined to call. You are probably snapcalling 60-70% pot bets, and I think a 80% pot bet gets called substantially more than a potbet, so if I was a LAG I'd bluff pot here.

So if he's a good LAG, he's definitly betting pot here imho. If he's a bad LAG, he'd bluff less but he'd also valuebet less imho. I call.
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