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Old 04-30-2007, 10:02 PM
Mjafish Mjafish is offline
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Default 200NL yet another can I fold bottom set thread

this hand has been bothering me the last few days...

villain is playing loose, pretty aggro. seems solid postflop. i just checked his stats: 28/18 (dont know this at the time)

how often is this something I beat? Once I 3bet on the flop do I have to call this shove?

Thoughts on my line? anything else?

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SB: $245.35
<u>BB: $318.30</u>
UTG: $93.10
<u>Hero (CO): $290.20</u>
BTN: $615.65

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 8 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $6

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($17) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $42</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $98</font>, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $310.30</font>, Hero ... adslkjfahfds kljada (calls all-in for $184.20)
Uncalled bet of $28.10 returned to BB

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($581.40) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

<font color="black">River:</font> ($581.40) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $581.40 ($2 Rake)
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:04 PM
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Default Re: 200NL yet another can I fold bottom set thread

I don't think you can fold. a 28/18 never has QQ here, so you only lose to TT and J9.

You can't fold a set when you lose to 2 hands.
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: 200NL yet another can I fold bottom set thread

I'd felt it here, and reraise a bit more the first time.
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Old 05-01-2007, 12:42 AM
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Default Re: 200NL yet another can I fold bottom set thread

If he has the straight with a backdoor flush draw you are still 2-1. call
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Old 05-01-2007, 12:52 AM
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Default Re: 200NL yet another can I fold bottom set thread

your flop 3 bet was way too small - make it closer to 150.

hes 3 betting QQ PF and a 28/18 prob does so with TT vs a CO open as well.
so you lose to 9J and sometimes TT. get it in.
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Old 05-01-2007, 12:55 AM
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Default Re: 200NL yet another can I fold bottom set thread

Doesn't he repop with TT preflop as well? He probably has QT/J9 nice hand, and you also have made outs against J9.
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Old 05-01-2007, 01:13 AM
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Default Re: 200NL yet another can I fold bottom set thread

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your flop 3 bet was way too small - make it closer to 150.

hes 3 betting QQ PF and a 28/18...

[/ QUOTE ]


yeah I miscalculated my 3bet I think I meant to make it 98 on top of his 42, but Im an idiot and typed in 98 instead of 140. I don't have PAHUD so I didn't know his numbers at the time, but I knew he was playing pretty loose and aggro pf.
With that in mind, I thought he would flip over QT, or J9. I'm well ahead of one, and have solid outs vs the other.


for those that care, results in white:
<font color="white"> he had QQ ... WTF ?!?! </font>


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Mike
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Old 05-01-2007, 01:15 AM
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Default Re: 200NL yet another can I fold bottom set thread

Felt here and don't worry about it if you lose.
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Old 05-01-2007, 01:39 AM
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Default Re: 200NL yet another can I fold bottom set thread

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Felt here and don't worry about it if you lose.

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Old 05-01-2007, 01:43 AM
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Default Re: 200NL yet another can I fold bottom set thread

im partial to flatcalling and bombing safe turns
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