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Old 11-12-2007, 01:14 AM
Richard Tanner Richard Tanner is offline
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Default Re: NFL Week 10 Sunday Night Football: Colts@ Chargers

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ok, fine. i will side with the rulebook though and it says it was PI...also you have to understand the frustration of non clocts fans at that call because if that was dallas clark the chances of that being PI seem to go thru the roof.

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Do you have ANYTHING to support this. It's incredibly annoying to see this touted again and again with nothing but anecdotal evidence. Give me something and I'll be glad to read it, but until then, shut up about this and the noise in the dome.

Cody
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:14 AM
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Default Re: NFL Week 10 Sunday Night Football: Colts@ Chargers

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Why do people keep saying that the difference was that 5 yard penalty??? The Colts were going to just let the play clock expire and would have been penalized those yards anyways. The only way that penalty could have changed anything was if SD would have jumped offsides.

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Actually watch Dungy right as he sends Manning on the field he mouths either "snap it with 1 second" or "Timeout with 1 second". Anyone with Tivo/DVR help me out here? This would help in this discussion.

Cody

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I saw that and assumed he said said snap it with one, but it was a ruse, he told him to take the delay, but wanted the d to think a snap was coming cus he said it so obvious like im retarded right now but you get my theory i think.

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Predicturing.
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:14 AM
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Default Re: NFL Week 10 Sunday Night Football: Colts@ Chargers

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A solid 24-yarder in those conditions is MUCH easier than a 29-yarder.

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I'll ask you for a 3rd time. define "MUCH". in %'s, how much easier is it?

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i wish i cared enough to look it up....my instinct tells me they will be REALLY REALLY close in made %.

you should be mad at dungy for lining his team up there if you are going to take the attitude that the 5 yards meant anything. not the officials.
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:14 AM
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Default Re: NFL Week 10 Sunday Night Football: Colts@ Chargers

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Well, you're welcome to your opinion, but on the plus side, I don't come into threads with the sole intent of just flaming people, which thus far is all I've seen you and sublime do. That makes you MUCH better, right?

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Give it a rest. I didn't say thing one to you until you said something silly.

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I was more than fair to the Patriots last week in our loss and I got flamed.

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I suspect not but I'll take your word for it.

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I think I'm being pretty fair, even if I'm overly passionate, about things that happened tonight

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Wrong.

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, and I'm getting flamed.

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See above.


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I think the only thing that would keep that from happening is if I either started just kissing Boston's ass or stopped posting, and neither of those is happening any time soon.

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I couldn't care less about Boston. But when you lose to *my* favorite team and act like an ass about it you can expect to take [censored] from me.
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:15 AM
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Default Re: NFL Week 10 Sunday Night Football: Colts@ Chargers

The difference is def less than 5%. I think it may be less than 1% (ok, I'm probably wrong).
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:15 AM
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Default Re: NFL Week 10 Sunday Night Football: Colts@ Chargers

There were calls throughout the entire game that were disputable both ways, just like every football game ever. So why all the focus on that last one? The colts lost themselves this game and thats all there is to it. 95% of the damage was done in the first half. That missed kick was just the icing on the losing the game cake really.
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:16 AM
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Default Re: NFL Week 10 Sunday Night Football: Colts@ Chargers

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ok, fine. i will side with the rulebook though and it says it was PI...also you have to understand the frustration of non clocts fans at that call because if that was dallas clark the chances of that being PI seem to go thru the roof.

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Do you have ANYTHING to support this. It's incredibly annoying to see this touted again and again with nothing but anecdotal evidence. Give me something and I'll be glad to read it, but until then, shut up about this and the noise in the dome.

Cody

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i have not once made a post about dome noise.

the colts getting questionable PI calls should be accepted as fact at this point.
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:16 AM
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http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0003-13...TOR-enlargePage

Anyone have a subscription?
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:17 AM
Kneel B4 Zod Kneel B4 Zod is offline
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Default Re: NFL Week 10 Sunday Night Football: Colts@ Chargers

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A solid 24-yarder in those conditions is MUCH easier than a 29-yarder.

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I'll ask you for a 3rd time. define "MUCH". in %'s, how much easier is it?

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There may not be a number. I kicked in HS and college for 5 years. I would say in [censored] conditions it could be as much as 50% or as little as 10% easier depending on a whole bunch of things, wind, rain, turf quality, etc.

Does that help?

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it helps me understand that you're an idiot. sorry dude.

PS: I was a kicker too!!
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:17 AM
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Default Re: NFL Week 10 Sunday Night Football: Colts@ Chargers

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A solid 24-yarder in those conditions is MUCH easier than a 29-yarder.

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I'll ask you for a 3rd time. define "MUCH". in %'s, how much easier is it?

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There may not be a number. I kicked in HS and college for 5 years. I would say in [censored] conditions it could be as much as 50% or as little as 10% easier depending on a whole bunch of things, wind, rain, turf quality, etc.

Does that help?

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it helps me understand that you're an idiot. sorry dude.

PS: I was a kicker too!!

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I was small and weak and didnt like getting hit, does that count?
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