400NL - 2 yucky QQ hands, thoughts?

[flyfishingnut10]

Villain here is running 24/18/3, not much history and not that big of a sample. Assume your average lagtag.

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $139
Hero (SB): $397.50
BB: $400
UTG: $684.40
MP: $381.50
CO: $64.20

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $14</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $52</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">UTG raises to $133</font>, Hero calls $81

Flop: ($270) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $188</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $264.50 and is All-In</font>

Villain here is running 30/21/4 over 24 hands. No history at all.

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $83
CO: $462
Hero (BTN): $400
SB: $479.50
BB: $162
UTG: $158.90

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $48</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $34

Flop: ($100) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $65</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $130 (planning on snapping a shove ldo)</font>

[cbboy]

hand 1- If you call the 4-bet PF, you are getting it in on this flop.

hand 2- I like 4-betting PF here. calling and raising this flop is fine as well.

[flyfishingnut10]

FWIW I'm most concerned about the overall line in general in hand 1; obviously I'm not folding this flop.

[rand]

um both are fine, usually 5 bet shove 1

2 is good

i could tell you more if i knew who villains were but i really like both

[A__theKevlar__2]

i like them both, obv lots of different lines you can take w/ these hands but i don't disagree w/ anything.

[cbboy]

Well, in hand 1 i would shove or fold PF. I would usually just shove as rand said though.

[flyfishingnut10]

Villain is hand 1 is dirtyfolder, villain in hand 2 is ShipAspen.

[rand]

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Villain is hand 1 is dirtyfolder, villain in hand 2 is ShipAspen.

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weird, neither ring a bell, they are prolly in my data base but i dont remember [censored] about them...

[flyfishingnut10]

Anybody like a bigger raise in hand 2? Something like $150-$180? Does he ever flat the minraise with something like AK?

[willw9]

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Anybody like a bigger raise in hand 2? Something like $150-$180? Does he ever flat the minraise with something like AK?

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