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Re: Are baseball umpires getting help from the booth?
In a Mets/Phillies game in NY, the umps initially ruled a homerun by Wright to be in play. He wound up on third. The scoreboard operator played a replay of the hit, which showed that it should have been a homerun. The umps then overturned the call.... Charlie Manuel was not happy, to say the least.
It's bad that replay is actually used in some situations, favoring the hometeam. It's going to take a screwed up playoff game for the owners/players to decide a new policy. |
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Re: Are baseball umpires getting help from the booth?
I'm looking for consistency on what should happen in a given situation. When, exactly, can an umpire's call be overruled, and who is responsible for the overruling?
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Re: Are baseball umpires getting help from the booth?
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I'm looking for consistency on what should happen in a given situation. When, exactly, can an umpire's call be overruled, and who is responsible for the overruling? [/ QUOTE ] For me, the best solution would be the umps themselves would only ask for a replay if they could not come to a consensus among those that saw the play what the right call is. KJS |
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Re: Are baseball umpires getting help from the booth?
I'm pretty sure no umpire can overrule another umpire's call. The umpire who made the call has to change his mind. I know there have been instances watching games where my reflex led me to form an opinion on a call, but thinking back I thought I made a mistake. I think part of the reason umpires "confer" is to make it look good for when the first umpire just changes his mind.
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http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...4/ai_n15658612
This tries to list calls that should be conferred on. However, it is really limited and there is a lot of grey area. |
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Re: Are baseball umpires getting help from the booth?
plz to be using automated ball/strike calls and replay. Get it right, [censored] the rest.
Given that I'll never get the first one, just give me replay on everything but balls and strikes. |
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Re: Are baseball umpires getting help from the booth?
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I'm pretty sure no umpire can overrule another umpire's call. [/ QUOTE ] this is wrong. the example the guy used happened in the uc irvine vs i forget who game last week. The home plate ump overruled the first base ump. He did it immediately, before a conference. |
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Re: Are baseball umpires getting help from the booth?
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plz to be using automated ball/strike calls and replay. Get it right, [censored] the rest. Given that I'll never get the first one, just give me replay on everything but balls and strikes. [/ QUOTE ] I like the ambiguity of balls/strikes. Everything else should have replay. |
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Re: Are baseball umpires getting help from the booth?
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[ QUOTE ] I'm pretty sure no umpire can overrule another umpire's call. [/ QUOTE ] this is wrong. the example the guy used happened in the uc irvine vs i forget who game last week. The home plate ump overruled the first base ump. He did it immediately, before a conference. [/ QUOTE ] Which umpire was supposed to make the call? I was under the impression that for basically every play, one umpire was supposed to make the call. For example: a ball that rolls foul in front of the 1st base bag is the responsibility of the home plate umpire and ball past the bag is the responsibility of the 1st base umpire. If the responsibility is joint, I'm not sure you can call this overruling a call. Kind of like calling fouls in the NBA: 3 refs are watching the play and two don't see a foul but one does, the ref who sees it can call the foul. |
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Re: Are baseball umpires getting help from the booth?
I'm pretty sure the home plate ump has authority over the rest of the crew.
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