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Old 11-17-2007, 01:10 AM
ZeroPointMachine ZeroPointMachine is offline
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Default Re: Liberty Dollar office raided

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At some point long before they "climbed to the top of their career ladder" every law enforcement officer faces many situations where believing in the liberty of others, the rule of law, or even right and wrong, is going to be a liability to their career. So, they make the choice. Of course, if you don't have any of those morals things are much simpler. Have you ever had to make those decisions? The arguement that I've been here to long for my morals too have any relevance is ridiculous (to me).

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No, I haven't. All warrants go through a constitutional process, if they don't the findings of the search are thrown out of court. I may not personally agree with the reason for every warrant I've ever served,

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Why did you serve them?

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but I've also never felt that I was causing irreconcilable damage to anyone either. Go to court, fight it. That's why the courts are in place.

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What do you consider irreconcilable damage? Does shutting down someones business and seizing all their assets meet the stadard? Causing someone to lose their job? Incarcerating them for any period of time when they committed no crime? How do you fight in court with no assets? How do you pay the rent and expenses generated by your business when you have no revenue and no assets? How do you reconcile things if the court does eventually throw out the warrant? Will they unbankrupt you? Will they contact all your lost customers and explain that it was all a big mistake and that you did nothing wrong? Will they decide that the person who requested or issued the bogus warrant should pay for their actions?

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Can you please explain to me the details you know of the process a sworn law officer goes through to obtain a warrant? I'm just curious because I'm trying to figure out exactly who I'm dealing with here.

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I'm sure you understand the process for obtaining warrants much better than I do. However, if the process isn't subject to some level of abuse by LE and the DA, could you explain to me why the courts would ever throw out a warrant?

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Ok, I will tell you of an experience of mine that will put this all into perspective. When I first started, I was involved in the serving of a warrant which involved child pornography. Nothing was found, the man who we were serving the warrant on beat the criminal case, sued the city for $2.4 million, sued the county for $9.2 Mil, won both. (Both agencies were involved in the raid) FWIW, no personal injury was done to him, and the damage done to his property was probably around 4-5k. Now, I ask you, can you tell me he wasn't properly reconciled for this mistake?

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A) sample size is small
B) Was it really a "mistake"? Did nobody in the process know they were doing something wrong. Was nobody motivated by things besides their interest in "protecting and serving"?
C) The city and county didn't give him [censored]. The people of the city and county paid for this "service".
D) I would certainly consider being arrested and thrown in jail as an accused pedophile a personal injury.
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