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KK turn and river decisions
Villain is BB. My PT stats on him are 23/16/3.3/133 hands.
I'm not sure what to do on turn and river. I called the turn believing he would only bet river if he had me beat. Comments on especially the turn and river are very welcome. Prima Poker skin No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.50/$1 6 players Converter - Hero(UTG): $158.55 - UTG+1: $110.78 - CO: $2.68 - BTN: $50.21 - SB: $107.26 - BB: $216.88 Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Hero raises to $3.5, UTG+1 folds, CO calls all-in $2.68, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls. Flop: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($13.18, 3 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $10.72, Sidepot 1: $2.46) SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $9, SB folds, BB calls. Turn: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($31.18, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $10.72, Sidepot 1: $20.46) BB bets $26, Hero calls. River: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($83.18, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $10.72, Sidepot 1: $72.46) BB bets $63 Hero? |
#2
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Re: KK turn and river decisions
I raise the turn to ~$75 and get the rest in later.
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#3
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Re: KK turn and river decisions
I just can't figure out this guys line. Why would he c/c me on flop and then bet out on turn? I think when he calls me out of position in his BB he is most likely to have a pocket pair. So my concern is does he have a set or does he have an overpair which I beat. Therefore I called the turn and thought I would fold to a big river bet since he would likely be holding a set. How does that sound?
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#4
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Re: KK turn and river decisions
his range is way wider than just pp that could have made sets. also sc and stuff.
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#5
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Re: KK turn and river decisions
His line seems really if he has some kind of big draw especially with his AF. I guess he could have decided to take a weird line and slowplay a set even though its a drawy board. With you raising UTG he probably can rule out most big draws from your range. I guess he could be bet/folding a weaker over pair. I think calling and reevaluating is probably good.
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#6
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Re: KK turn and river decisions
Ok. But how would you play the river then if you agree on the turn decision?
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#7
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Re: KK turn and river decisions
I really don't know. Without a read i think it is a tough spot. If you think he is firing a missed draw a lot you can probably call. But again it seems like a strange play for a draw. I really don't think he can be value betting much that you beat but i see some weird light value bets from certain players. I think a fold is probably good without much of a read. But i am fairly lost here
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#8
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Re: KK turn and river decisions
i'd raise the weak turn bet every day. he shouldn't have a strong hand on the turn because a strong hand should raise the flop.
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Re: KK turn and river decisions
I'm definitely raising the turn here, as it makes the hand much easier to play. I think if he shoves over our RR on turn we have to fold? Dunno, that seems pretty soft but he's either gonna have a set or some sort of combo draw. Thus, we are either crushed or like a 70/30 to win. I'm no good at equity calculations though...
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#10
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Re: KK turn and river decisions
Raise folding seems bad to me. I don't think he is calling a raise with anything we beat. I still think his line seems really strange for a draw and i would think he shoves or folds a draw when we raise the turn. We also probably have almost no fold equity vs hands that beat us. I think calling the turn and the river is better than raise folding on the turn. I also think calling and reevaluating is fine
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