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Old 09-25-2007, 07:57 PM
lippy lippy is offline
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Default Re: Middle pairs vs. tight players.

I would never advocate just calling down from the flop.
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Old 09-26-2007, 01:28 AM
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Default Re: Middle pairs vs. tight players.

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Raise flop, bet turn, check river. Is the line I like most.

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I don't understand this urge to raise flops. You'll get 3-bet and donked or checkraised on turn often.
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Old 09-26-2007, 01:34 AM
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Default Re: Middle pairs vs. tight players.

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This is so player dependent and dynamics dependent.

Against a dumb straight forward "I have read Stox book, but I still suck at hand reading" TAG I will mostly call flop and turn and fold river if he bets.


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Oink, are you implying this is where a better TAG would check to you with AA, AK or whatever on the river to induce you to value bet your mid-pair - because now you might believe he has AQ - so he gets an extra bet off you?
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Old 09-26-2007, 03:28 AM
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Default Re: Middle pairs vs. tight players.

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This is so player dependent and dynamics dependent.

Against a dumb straight forward "I have read Stox book, but I still suck at hand reading" TAG I will mostly call flop and turn and fold river if he bets.


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Oink, are you implying this is where a better TAG would check to you with AA, AK or whatever on the river to induce you to value bet your mid-pair - because now you might believe he has AQ - so he gets an extra bet off you?

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I am implying that most predictable TAGs will never valuebet a worse hand here.

A good TAG who knows me will know that I often have a low pocket pair or a good Ax when I peel flop and turn. Given this he might realize that if he bets a medium Ax he can often get a fold if he bets.
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