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Old 11-27-2007, 10:39 AM
tolbiny tolbiny is offline
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How about this angle: Humans are selfish by nature (not completely, but mostly). In that sense, an organized body with the right authority is needed to help distribute resources, reduce separation between classes, etc. Obviously not to the extreme (communism) but enough to give the poor decent conditions.

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Humans' selfish nature works in favor of capitalism as trades usually benefit both parties. A lumberjack cuts down trees, but there is no sense in hoarding cut trees so he trades some of them to a guy who makes furniture, but it doesn't make sense for the guy to hoard furniture so he trades them for food, ect, ect. Henry Ford is a classic example of this, he organized an auto plant in such a way that he was able to produce cars cheap enough for the majority to afford them. At the same time that he did this his workers were getting paid some of the highest wages in the country, and at the same time as this Henry Ford got rich as [censored].
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:05 AM
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Default Re: Why Im no longer an ACist

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Humans are selfish by nature (not completely, but mostly). In that sense, an organized body with the right authority is needed to help distribute resources, reduce separation between classes, etc. Obviously not to the extreme (communism) but enough to give the poor decent conditions.


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Dont you see how contradictory this statement is? Humans are selfish so we need a representative democracy to make sure people stay in line. wtf?

People arent selfish, people actually care a lot about others in their communities and abroad. We know this because they vote in leaders who claim to take care of the poor!

The sad thing is, is that people lack complete information (oh wait dont we need government to solve this too?) of how little the government helps the poor and so people arent going to go above and beyond what they pay in taxes. Hence, you get this impression that people dont give to charity. But everyone is already giving to charity, even if they dont want to.
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